Posts by darkspilver

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Awake! Magazine April 22 1970

by pale.emperor in

was doing some research this evening and i think ive found possibly the most damaging awake magazine issue the jw's could have printed.

april 22nd 1970. you can download the entire 1970 volume here: http://da-ip.getmyip.com:8080/pdf/old%20publications/?sort=d.

in this issue, the watchtower calls other religions on their hypocrisy for changing doctrine, upbeat music in their services, the clergy meddling in worldly affairs (un anyone?

darkspilver

Hey pale.emperor!

Awake! 22 April 1970 ('Special Edition') pages 3 to 28

CHANGES IN THE CHURCHES - WHAT DO THEY MEAN FOR YOU?

What's Happening in the Churches?
Why Religious Leaders Are Worried
Changes That Disturb People
Should Meat Be Eaten on Friday?
Dropping of Saints Causes Confusion
What's Going On at Church Services
Divisions in the Churches — Add to Confusion
Birth - Control Issue Divides Church
Should Priests Be Free to Marry?
Teachings in Conflict
Involvement in Worldly Affairs Disturbs Many
What Will Happen to the Churches?—The Meaning for You
How to Identify the True Religion
The Wise Course to Take

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London K.H.'s - Which Ones Will Be Sold Off?

by The Searcher in

according to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective january 1st 2017.

(i've only highlighted a couple) in all probability, their own k.h.

is/has been sold.

darkspilver

Hey The Searcher!

how's your search for single use K.H.'s in London getting on? Be interesting to see how many are used by just one congregation.... as these are the most likely to be the first to go....

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Using the term "Watchtower" when talking to a JW

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

has anyone else noticed how alarm bells go off inside a jw mind as soon as they hear someone that "is out" refer to the leaders of this org as "watchtower"?

i've chatted with a few friends now about my doubts and each and every time i've started using phrases such as "watchtower said this" or "watchtower did that", i can almost see their heads about to explode in anger, as if they've just realized they are talking to the lucifer himself.

some have even interrupted and corrected me by reminding me that it's not "watchtower", it's "god's organization".

darkspilver

as polish clarinet said above......

Watchtower 15 March 2000, page 32

What She Misses About New York City
The sign seen here has been prominently displayed on one of the Watchtower Society’s factory buildings in Brooklyn, New York, since the 1950’s.

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May 22 1969 Awake!

by zeb in

jw
friends

"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?

because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".

may 22 awake!

darkspilver

Hey zeb!

May 22 Awake! of 1969.
(This was removed from public access)

How was it removed? on any reprints it was missing.

Ah yes, it was missing from the reprints - oh, but, wait, no....

Only the Watchtower bound volumes were ever reprinted.

And actually, although that project was definitely started - I believe it was probably never finished due to technology overtaking it with the release of the Watchower Library on CD......

Kingdom Ministry October 1987, page 8

Reprint of Watchtower Bound Volumes
What a wonderful provision the Watch Tower Publications Index 1930-1985 is for research and study! However, many brothers do not have in their personal or Kingdom Hall library all the publications referred to in the Index. In order to help provide some of this material, the Society is planning a reprint of The Watchtower bound volumes for the years 1960 through 1979, in English only. These reprints will be produced as we are able to work them into our schedule. It is our intention to make these available five volumes at a time. Orders for the years 1960 through 1964 will be accepted during November.

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May 22 1969 Awake!

by zeb in

jw
friends

"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?

because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".

may 22 awake!

darkspilver

Hey zeb!

And secondly, I'm calling you out.....

(oh, and feel free to have a chat with both Gorbatchov about jewish women and The Searcher about kingdom halls)

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May 22 1969 Awake!

by zeb in

jw
friends

"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?

because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".

may 22 awake!

darkspilver

Hey zeb!

First things first.... as nobody else has on this thread yet....

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May 22 1969 Awake!

by zeb in

jw
friends

"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?

because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".

may 22 awake!

darkspilver

Hey zeb!

May 22 Awake! of 1969.
(This was removed from public access)

Yeah, it's an important quote and magazine....

But apart from the initial magazine printing, bound volume production and it then going naturally out of print as would be expected of any periodical - how has it been removed from public access?

Has it ever been re-published or re-printed and then public access removed?

In other words, has there ever been public access to it apart from the initial magazine printing and bound volume production? - because you can't remove something that wasn't there to start with........

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

darkspilver

Migration? Populations move over time... 50... 30... 20 years....

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/great-california-exodus-closer-look-5853.html

http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2015/04/01/how-a-great-american-migration-to-california-reversed-itself/

http://www.newgeography.com/content/003584-california-a-world-hurt

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Dutch assembly hall dedicated today...

by Anders Andersen in

jw
friends

anyone visited swifterbant or the video stream at the local kh?.

any high- or lowlights?.

asked my inwife if the new hall is nice (i know it's not).

darkspilver

oh, I thought it took place yesterday

sorry

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5123300059512832/new-dutch-assembly-hall-swifterbant-17-september-2016

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London K.H.'s - Which Ones Will Be Sold Off?

by The Searcher in

according to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective january 1st 2017.

(i've only highlighted a couple) in all probability, their own k.h.

is/has been sold.

darkspilver

Hey The Searcher!

Hmmm, I'm kinda still gonna call you out.....

From The Searchers third post in this thread:

I stand corrected and defer to your alertness. I should have said "many already share a hall and the few that don't, appear to be getting moved into other K.H.'s." New light provided.

Thanks for highlighting the error.

Really? 'many already share a hall and the few that don't' - Really? - sorry to disappoint

It appears that EVERY K.H. you listed in your opening post is shared between two or more congregations - actually, as I highlighted earlier in my previous post on this thread, on average EACH hall you listed is actually shared by 3.5 congregations.

Why didn't you list the London K.H.'s that aren't shared, and are used by just one congregation?

the irony of usernames

Anyway, no bad feeiings ..... I'll even start you off.... you see, I'm a nice and helpful person

London, East Molesey at 70 High Street, WEST MOLESEY KT8 2LY
London, Richmond Park at 29a Alexandra Road, KINGSTON UPON THAMES KT2 6SD
London, Swanley at Bremner Close, London Road, SWANLEY BR8 8TG
London, Tolworth at 16A Derby Road, Tolworth, SURBITON KT5 9AY
Now it's over to you......

You see, and let's be clear about this, I'm not saying that all London congregations share their K.H.'s - some don't (see above).

Rather, I'm calling you out because I believe most people would have understood that your opening post and title was implying that the majority of the 35 London K.H.'s that you had listed - not just a couple but 35!! and all in London!! - had just one congregation meeting in them.

And therefore - quite understandably and quite easily - that single congregation could be moved to a neighboring K.H. - hey! hey! - and free up real estate that could be - in your words - 'sacrificed for filthy lucre.'

Oh, and not forgetting the mysterious 'according to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective January 1st 2017' message that you haven't shown or provided a link to yet (or even a screen shot) ??