i feel bad for my kids that their father puts the congregation above them.
it's so sad.
he's so busy with all this congregation stuff that they have just about no relationship.. .
Wow Vidiot. I know what you mean. I fully expected to be destroyed at Armageddon for choosing my family.
Cognac: i'm sorry you are going through such a hard time. I hope your husband realizes how important it is to build a relationship with his family.
we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.
i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.
i had been yo-young back and forth for years.
Well I just talked to my mom the other day. I guess I'm not as emotionally out as I thought I was. She sure knows how to push those buttons.😫
so is it possible to understand a reason and not respect it?
shouldn't understanding lead to a respect of the reasons and actions?.
or can you respect the reasons and actions without understanding them?.
double post.
so is it possible to understand a reason and not respect it?
shouldn't understanding lead to a respect of the reasons and actions?.
or can you respect the reasons and actions without understanding them?.
Legacy,
I can see that a lot of my viewpoints and judgements have changed this past year.
I lol when I read your comment about God & his interest in our sex lives. I just had an Ah ha moment about that's few months ago.
Why indeed would God be do invested in who anyone had sex with?
You can talk about the effects on society and families. But why would God care?
so is it possible to understand a reason and not respect it?
shouldn't understanding lead to a respect of the reasons and actions?.
or can you respect the reasons and actions without understanding them?.
Legacy: great advice: listen more talk less.
so is it possible to understand a reason and not respect it?
shouldn't understanding lead to a respect of the reasons and actions?.
or can you respect the reasons and actions without understanding them?.
Phizzy: thank you for that clarification between making a judgement and being judgemental.
You said : "that is the problem with the JW mindset, they are right, there is no room for an alternative opinion to be as valid as theirs..it is their way or it is wrong."
I think many other people tend to have that mindset as well.
You can see it in some's attitude toward same sex marriage , evolution, politics.
Miss.Fit
so is it possible to understand a reason and not respect it?
shouldn't understanding lead to a respect of the reasons and actions?.
or can you respect the reasons and actions without understanding them?.
Legacy: I like that. It does not sound as judgemental.
I think I was reacting to the judgmental attitude without realising it.
I wanted my mom to concentrate on the positive aspects concerning my niece.
She was so focused on the not being married part that she completely overlooked the long term commitment my niece sharedc with her partner.
what saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
Bible trained conscience
Babylon the Great
Worldly person
no part of the world/ keep seperate from the world
independant thinking
dont make Jehovah sad
Rely on Jehovah, he will provide
This system of things
everyone has an opinion on things.
oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.
but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.
Minimus: great advice.
I think it is important to remember that most of us are strangers to another.
We only know what the posters choose to tell us about themselves. And even that is just scratching the surface.
People respond based on their biases and experiences and their perceptions based on what they think they know based on the info. you give them.
i've been thinking about brother morris' statement at the zone meeting this past weekend that inactive ones are bloodguilty.
bloodguilt is defined as "guilty of murder or manslaughter.
" murder is #1 on the list of disfellowshipping offenses- all they would have to do is change the wording from "murder" to "bloodguilt" and suddenly there you have grounds to disfellowship anyone who's inactive.
I hope UBMs and faded spouses, anyone with family still in, or are being shunned, really had a chance to hear or read the transcript of that talk.
That in a nutshell us what you are dealing with.
imagine being told stuff like that all of your life?
Imagine the guilt they feel when they look at you or your children. They are looking at your blood on their hands.
They have to do more, be more, because maybe if they cant get you in, they will not be worthy enough to make it to paradise.
Putting in that 15 min. Of informal witnessing a month can mean the difference between life or death!
Many feel bitter because they think their family has choosen the org. Over them.
Not true. They are fighting for your lives and their salvation.
Think of that strong imagery he invoked.
Standing before God with your blood and your children's blood dripping from their hands because they didnt do enough.
