out of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.
my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.
the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .
Nature tells me it was created and nature also tells me a loving God would have it done differently...animals eating other animals in order to survive.
No one knows, people beliefs are all made up.
If there was a loving Father in the heaven he would have communicated differently with us to let us know what he wants and how it all happened.
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"the transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of h2o [water] as all the world's ocean.".
http://news.yahoo.com/found-hidden-ocean-locked-deep-earths-mantle-181204475.html.
i figured when people read this that there will be those claiming proof of the flood story.
God destroys mankind in the flood and in his wisdom keeps "Satan" and imperfect Noah and his family to populate the earth with the same crappy, wicked people. What did he accomplish?
It's been proven a was a local flood and in the eyes of those living back then, not having CNN and MSNBC it would definetely be global.
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as the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
Just another dangerous religion that makes bigger claim than other religion.
1000's have died for this "true religion"
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being pushed by religion since the 17th century.
my question is why ?.
I cannot paste the info but google "dates of end of the world predictions" you will find that mankind has been talking and giving dates when it will happen for 1000's of years.
JW's are mentioned about ten times.
so the rc really sucked, but i made it through.
the propaganda was mind blowing.
i don't know if the crap will be available on the official website or not, but hopefully it gets leaked somehow.
The watchtower is good at making people feel guilty all the time for not doing enough.
At assemblies thay would bring out experiences of sisters with unbeliving husband and 5 kids and they were pioneering and at the end they would ask the audience " Can you go in prayer before Jehovah and give him an excuse why you are not pioneering?"
I would hear from my ex-wife the same as you while i was trying to pay the bills, raise 3 kids.
Ask your wife if you notice in the congregation anyone that has been helped by Jehovah?
so the rc really sucked, but i made it through.
the propaganda was mind blowing.
i don't know if the crap will be available on the official website or not, but hopefully it gets leaked somehow.
The watchtower is good at making people feel guilty all the time for not doing enough.
At assemblies thay would bring out experiences of sisters with unbeliving husband and 5 kids and they were pioneering and at the end they would ask the audience " Can you go in prayer before Jehovah and give him an excuse why you are not pioneering?"
I would hear from my ex-wife the same as you while i was trying to pay the bills, raise 3 kids.
Ask your wife if you notice in the congregation anyone that has been helped by Jehovah?
my best friend of 14 years and maid of honor passed away 2 months ago at age 32 after battling breast cancer for 6 years.
i haven't been the same since for many reasons.. as a jw kid i believed 144,000 chosen went to heaven, the good people would be resurrected including those who didn't have a chance to hear about jehovah, and the rest, which were of other religions and bad people, died and would cease to exist.
again, because i was a kid when i left, i never really understood the jw position on death and why they came to their conclusion.
No evidence that "something" goes to heaven after we die, no one has ever come back besides what we read in the bible which i don't believe anymore.
No hell for sure.
pure speculation for several reasons.. "friends, it has been 100 momentous years since christ arrived as king.
in the last 100 years a great shout of praise has gone up to jehovah.
technology has greatly changed the way people live and communicate and jehovah has made sure that his organization is on the forefront of these changes.
A little at a time they have been eliminating meetings, assemblies and it would not be shocking just like Paul mentioned in the 1st century that the preaching was done, the watchtower can claim the same.
Encourage the publisher to witness informally and send the money that they are saving on gas and car maintenance to the watchtower for building projects.
The GB is not stupid, they realize knocking on doors is nothing but a waste of time and money.
i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .
i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .
uun.
Came in at 22 and left at 54.
32 years in and so glad to be out.
my dad told me this story long time ago.
there was an long time elder that is never married.
he got caught going to brothel one day after a brother followed him there.
One of my best friend, an elder, married to a sweet woman, two kids, confessed going to prostitutes for many years so he could get a BJ.
He was DF , of course removed as an elder
