Personally, I feel that an organisation as morally bankrupt and steeped in lies and deception, with laws that are truly evil, such as the JW's organisation could only have been founded upon teachings which are themselves morally bankrupt and evil.
Onager
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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Onager
I am glad to have found the true religion
glad
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Unless your definition of these terms is radically different from the rest of the English speaking world, I fear this statement is syntactically impossible.
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A Question about Spiritistic Books
by schnell ini have a nearly academic interest in the occult, though i am not a spiritualist and remain a skeptic.
i've come to learn that demons are based on everything from dust devils in the desert, to diseases, to actual people.
probably most of all, demons are a tool of good ol' fashioned con artists and fear mongers.. but here's a question.
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Onager
I like to think that I'm comfortably ex-JW with no beliefs in a spirit realm or demons or anything of that nature, but I still got a twinge of worry when a friend did a Tarot reading for me.
Going to the Witchcraft museum in Boscastle also got the twinges going!
I think that although consciously I have concluded all of it is untrue, there are still hidden subconscious sub-routines in my brain's programming. That's the power of conditioning I suppose.
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UK Kingdom Halls for sale
by darkspilver in" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !
sell !
sell !
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I wonder if they'll go the mainline churches route when the money starts to dry up and start letting the halls be rented out by other groups? Toddler playgroup on a Monday, Satan's Appreciation Group on Wednesdays...
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Article - Wales - Daily Post: 'Sly' Anglesey Jehovah's Witness preacher jailed for sex with a child
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sly-anglesey-jehovahs-witness-preacher-12361109.
dec. 22, 2016 by derek bellis.
elder, daniel anglesey pleaded guilty at caernarfon crown court and was sent to prison for two years and eight months.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS
by jhine inl don't visit very often now , but l wanted to drop in to wish all you folks a merry christmas and happy new year .
as l cannot find a thread already started for this l have started one !
in the immortal words of chuck berry ( l think ) " come on everybody " join in wishing your fellow posters a merry christmas , happy holidays etc .
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Onager
Merry Christmas!
May all your festive wishes come true and your new year resolutions last all year.
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Jeremiah 10:23 - "...It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step."
by HereIgo ini have been accused recently of "trying to direct my own step" because of my questioning the org and refusing to come back to the "truth" for the past 6 years.
i personally still believe in god, i just doubt that he is behind the jw org, that's all.
why is that so hard for jw's to understand?
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Onager
"It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step".
OK... but in that case it doesn't belong to any other man (or men) to direct his step either.
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Garden of Eden
by Onager inwhere is the garden of eden?.
i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.
adam and eve get booted out of this place.
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Onager
Ah, the flood destroyed the garden. Of course! :)
That still leaves two thousand years of human history (Eden to flood) where humans could have tried to get to the fruit though. The prize is eternal life for crying out loud! Surely Adam and all his descendants would be camped out in front of the garden, desperately trying to find a way in. We would have tales, passed down into history, of the hero Zog who managed to get over the wall but was mauled by a vegetarian lion inches away from the tree.
I guess my point is the Eden story has all the characteristics of a fable. And if it is a fable (which it is) then the fall of man is allegorical (not true) and the ransom sacrifice is not required and all Christian religions are no more valid than a Harry Potter fan club.
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Garden of Eden
by Onager inwhere is the garden of eden?.
i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.
adam and eve get booted out of this place.
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Where is the garden of Eden?
I don't mean where in the world, I mean where in history.
Adam and Eve get booted out of this place. A place which is not only a pretty nice place to live, but it has a tree in it which gives you everlasting life.
Yes it's guarded by angels and levitating fiery swords, but surely people would have been trying to get in and get the fruit? The garden and the tree of life just disappear out of the narrative, almost like it was a fable.
If there was an actual Eden with an actual tree of life in it then surely the history of humanity would have been one of desperately trying to break back into Eden?
Yes, ok, maybe the angels defending the garden might have been a bit trigger happy and killed those that tried but I bet you that every generation would at least raise one hero who would try and reach the prize. If such a place existed.
Thinking about it. What does the tree of life do in the story? God creates the garden of Eden and puts the tree of life and the tree of knowledge in it. The tree of knowledge has its fruit eaten by Adam and Eve, but no-one eats the tree of life's fruit. It's created and disappears without fulfilling any purpose at all.
The only place you see ridiculously powerful artefacts appear and then disappear like this is in badly written fiction where the hero in book one finds the sword of ultimate power but then in book two has to lose it again otherwise he would have it too easy.
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New member
by NinaCee ini did not see a newbs thread to introduce myself, so my apologies if i'm in the wrong place.
i was a 3rd generation born in witness for 30 years until i was disfellowshipped back in 2007 for making a mistake.
my entire life up until that point was based on and circled around the society, and even though at first i really enjoyed my freedom (i still do), the fact is that i'm still struggling with cognitive dissonance, resentment, and loneliness.. i miss my family all the time.
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Onager
Welcome NinaCee!
If you're still struggling with Cognitive dissonance, then that must mean that part of you still believes there's some truth in the JW religion. Using resources like this forum and JWfacts.com should ease that dissonance as you'll find out that on every important point, they are completely wrong.
A possessive husband is whole nother ball of wax. You count yourself lucky to have him, but does he count himself lucky to have you? If he does then he should be prepared to be a little less possessive as it's harming your other friendships.
welcome again!