Posts by umbertoecho

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Paul Grundy being interviewed on ABC 612 right now

by Anonymous1 in

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/stations/local_brisbane/live?play=true

umbertoecho

An excellent interview, with patches of "pain" that could still be heard. Yet he prevailed due to some inner core of faith within his own core........... Faith, in his own capacity to live and thrive inspite of what he knew was to come after being disfellowshipped was a strong and wonderful aspect of this man's character.

The religion of Jehovah's Witnesses does not promote "faith in oneself". Perhaps I am wrong in thinking this, but it just occurred to me as I listened to him that we were always taught to have faith in "men" who represented God. Never to trust our selves to do the right thing, think the right thing..........This was a good interview.

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Kingdom Hall Upgrades

by stuckinlimbo in

hi all :) been a looooong time since i've been around.

anyways, i was wondering if the kingdom hall reno/upgrade scam is going on in australia as well?

the hall where i live apparently needs a complete gut and redo (admittedly the decor was horrid).

umbertoecho

I wonder why all the large assemblies have been cancelled this year then. I have been told that the venues are too expensive to rent. This is a first for me having been associated on and off for decades.

Now there will be lots of small conventions held at the larger properties. My family told me this with looks of great sorrow......very odd.

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

umbertoecho

Okay defender of truth. Just sent a fairly substantial email, but not a vitriolic one.

I have my British passport still and permanent residency in Australia. I do hope this helps in some small way.

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

umbertoecho

Don't worry, Defender of Truth.

I was born in England, my family were baptised in England, I recall much of my abuse in England.......I'll email right away.

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i feel more confused than ever

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

umbertoecho

AudeSapare

Ditto to that response. Gently gently disengage.......

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Take the Kingdom back to Mexico!

by John Aquila in

if donald trump wins the presidency, about 90% of the jws in my area will have to go back to mexico.

the watchtower will be having a fire sale on kingdom halls.

if trump became president and he followed through on his policy of sending back undocumented immigrants, would that affect the jws publisher numbers big time in the united states?

umbertoecho

We follow your' politics in Australia. Most people would feel very afraid of Trump and his seeming lack of self control and his outrageous views....just letting you know. We have American bases here and have had them for decades......

Surely this man would not do "good" in terms of his extreme views and his blatant bias.

I hope I have not offended anyone by saying this, but we do watch your' politics quite closely here

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"We don't run a spy network"

by OrphanCrow in

the wts has been keeping case files on child sex abuse for over 60 years that we know of.

*damn...my whole post disappeared.... .

the wts has been keeping case files on child sex abuse for over 60 years that we know of.

umbertoecho

Outlaw. Your word pictures are an excellent method of revealing what really does happen. Would you believe that I was actually followed for at least two months....I am telling you the truth when I say this..........For I had refused baptism at this stage. They didn't understand why and then they were suspicious of why I did not want to do this....

It was an awful experience as I felt they the Jehovah's witnesses were the ones with a great deal of paranoia. I was told by my study conductors that there were two WT magazines. One for the public and one for those who were in the ......well ..........the ones who had earned the trust of the elders....I was shocked to think this form of thinking existed...

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"We don't run a spy network"

by OrphanCrow in

the wts has been keeping case files on child sex abuse for over 60 years that we know of.

*damn...my whole post disappeared.... .

the wts has been keeping case files on child sex abuse for over 60 years that we know of.

umbertoecho

I can't help but agree with Crow. Knowledge is power. In this case, the knowledge of a crime and the ramifications of having this stored is as good as it gets in terms of holding someone to ransom.

It shows the integrity of the WT to be very suspect.

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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

he's most likely on a plane already.

if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

umbertoecho

Do you really think he can't be recalled? He can be, he will be. He is an Australian citizen and if they find holes in his testimony they will expect an answer from him. There are extradition treatise between Australia and America.

I don't know presume to know what will happen in the end, but the GB will be established as the "spokespersons" for the WTBTS. This is the main authority that controls all the lives of the rank and file members. This leads to further questions that will arise within the RC. Still, I confess that I don't know where it will end.

I do know this. Justice McClellan asked him GF, if he would consider a joint effort at redress for victims of abuse. Jackson said "yes". If they refuse to do so, there will be questions as to "why" they don't actually go ahead and join in with others who are willing. This will be damning for the society. It will show a lack of co-operation on the part of the WT. This could lead to further investigating into the financial workings of the society.....In a strange way, I hope they the GB, will view Australia as small fry and not important. This could be the best outcome. Underestimating the legal powers of another country is a dangerous route....WTs underestimation could fly straight back in their collective faces.....

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Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

by C0ntr013r in

i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

umbertoecho

Oh man, that is awesome. Have you sent that one in to the Royal Commission? They would be fascinated with this sort of accessory and it's price. The WT is a charity is it not? What in the hell are they doing with such expensive suites, watches, first class flights......Ah it makes me sick. Send it in. Charity status in Australia means "helping the community, regardless of religious affiliation".