Posts by umbertoecho

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Article in New Yorker magazine

by InquiryMan in

i guess this article will be appreciated within the jw community, being on the positive side when discussing blood transfusion.

it is the first of three articles to be published in that prestigious magazine.. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine.

umbertoecho

Steve2 Oh, I suppose you're right, it;s just that they crow and brag so much when things like this are printed. This makes me so angry. I would accept this if it didn't mean some magazine or a broadcast of some sort wasn't inevitably bound to come out of this.

I do accept in principle that this blood issue may have come as a result of JW beliefs, but I also know that the AIDs disease was also a factor in changing many policies. It made a huge change in so many areas of collecting storing and deciding how blood would be used.

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

umbertoecho

Come on then get to it. I think it's a very good idea to flood the Commission with good reasons allowing us to see his face. They are protecting this man.....O Tool or some other WTlawyer is deceiving them or using as much legal clout as they can legally get away with.

Let them know the GB are in complete control of 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses and that he is afraid of being tested a very real personal sense.

I have sent my email and hope you do too. However, don't think that this investigation is over, for they are going state to state taking testimony. Mine included. This is just the start and they will have a greater interest in the fiscal actions of WTBTS as a consequence. You do know that all monies are to leave Australia don't you? And all other sorts of monies taken in by various congregations and that they have been requested to mark these as"Donations". Odd behaviour for such and honest religion....

This is an attempt to disavow any scrutiny into the possible gains made through sales of property and god knows what else. The fear of losing tax exempt status is a very real one for WT and it's other incorporated bodies.

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

umbertoecho

Hello people. The RC will still go ahead with it's live stream on Friday 14th August. However, it seem that it will be a video link. I wonder why this is being done this way. Either he is sitting right next to his father as he is just about to die, or he is not in Australia, or this is the only way that he is willing, at this stage to give testimony. I am a bit disappointed as there is only so much a person can achieve when the "other" significant one is not actually present. It feels like they are trying to protect him. Damn it!!!!

Jehovah's Witness Geoffrey Jackson will give evidence on Friday 14 August via video linkbit.ly/1Kd5GdV

14 hours ago

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The recent Royal Commission hearings have stirred up my emotions ....

by troubled mind in

i hope the royal commission will be able to force the jw organization to take a serious look at itself ,and will cause some much needed changes.. i have been following the trial faithfully ,and unfortunately it has dredged up some deep pains from years ago .

you think some of that old baggage is neatly packed away never meant to see the light of day again .....but then boom there it is again .. hearing what bcg had to go through, and how she felt trying to get help from the elders was heart-wrenching.

i remember the terrible way young women were treated in the 1970's .

umbertoecho

troubled mind.

With you all the way and understand what it must have been like. I hope you can ........god...all these corny time worn phrases were about to spew out of my mouth just then. There are no real words of comfort are there?

Just know this. I do understand and relate to you and wish you well.xx

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Branch Organization Manual! download .....

by notgoinback in

as my second post on this forum, i want to share this with you guys!

this is the official branch organization manual (updated 2003) of jehovah's witnesses:.

http://jhonlemos.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/branch-organization-watchtower.pdf.

umbertoecho

Just sent that link off the lady who is dealing with me from the RC. No harm in it, no harm in trying. I think it's great to have this material.

Thanks for uploading those links....

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Reveal News: One Thing Leads to Another

by ABibleStudent in

according to reveal news' website at https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/one-thing-leads-to-another/, "in august, we're is picking up the threads from three major investigations to see whats happened since they aired.

these are stories that moved people, made them angry and sparked change.".

peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.

umbertoecho

Andersonsinfo Thank you for posting these links. I don't know how much more can be done but some people on this site are saying that it takes one little chip then another then another.....My words as I can't recall the exact phrase.

The thing is, that all these sexual abuse issues with all religions are to be stopped, made a very dangerous thing to cover up and served to the top men as a dire outcome if they don't get the point..............It's illegal and they can go to prison just like anyone else can.

A lot of people have been kept so quiet by fear or self recriminations,...all along they weren't to blame, they were the hurt ones.....

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Just for the record Vincent Toole and Terrence Obrien you are both lying SOBs

by joe134cd in

i just thought i would mention this on the off chance they might be lurking here.

the two quotes are.

(1)vincent toole ="i've never heard of the term 'theocratic warfare'".

umbertoecho

OzGirl......I remember that so well, he was so cocky so self assured and confident. I loathed his lying face that day and I still do. The new priesthood is the WTlawyer.

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Depressing chat to my still-in brother about the RC

by Lemonp in

here is a quick breakdown of our conversation (by text message).

me: "have you read about the royal commission?

the org has been covering up child abuse.

umbertoecho

The Royal Commission. And..... OSCE, UN, these are all being used by God to help the WTBTS to get a grip on reality....Oh that is so precious!!!!!!!!

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Jw gift.org

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

how did i miss this ?

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www.jwgift.org.

umbertoecho

Yep that's right Crow. They unashamedly ask one of the poorest countries to donate.

It's here too.

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This too Shall Pass (RC Commission vs WTS)

by undercover in

jw
friends

while i'm glad that the practices of the wts are under review and the australian commission is taking them to task, i'm not really expecting huge changes in the long run.

oh, they may have to agree to some changes in how they report crimes brought to elders' attention, but this excitement over the supposed expose of wt practices shall pass, and jws will soon be canvassing neighborhoods and rolling their carts, looking for converts.

conventions will go on.

umbertoecho

Steve2

Also, it already serves as a robust validation of former Witnesses (e.g., Barbara Anderson, Bill Bowen, etc) who have worked tirelessly to articulate genuine concerns about the JW organization's harmful policies and procedures on responding to abuse allegations.

This is a good point and a valuable form of validation for those who have really stuck their necks out. I include those victims who testified in this instance. They were the ones with strong voices of out rage and hurt. The elders and Co were pathetic in contrast to those women.

The voices of those men were croaking, mouths were dry, amnesia was running rampant. It was not a good look for such a religious organization that has gloated over every other religion being called to account in the past. Now, WTdom is just another American made religion born at a time when many others were forming......