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  Can Somebody here list All The Lies and Deceptions Given at the Royal Commission , By all the J.W.`s who Appeared ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am just wondering if somebody { who has been following the royal commission in australia can highlight all of the sleight of hand , deceptions , half truths , theocratic warfare tactics , misleading statements , untruths , omissions to the truth ,lying , feigned support for the victim , while not reporting her plight to the relevant authorities , etc.,etc.,} , can list these in one document , that would be a testament to anybody how culpable jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts are , in not protecting their own members , or members of the general public by not reporting such abuse to the relevant authorities ,when they had a duty to do so by law , not pertaining to mandatory reporting, but protecting the larger community .. ( i wish i wasn`t so old and had greater computer skills.).

  smiddy.

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  I've downloaded all the transcripts for further reading. Now that should be nice and revealing. Mind you. There is a collective form of amnesia in these hearings and thankfully the counsel assisting was kind enough to assist by giving the documents in hard copy complete with signatures to these men with retarded memory functions..............Good on them....the RC that is
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  WARNING: SEXUAL PREDATOR ON THE LOOSE IN NEW MEXICO!

  by Penelope1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  im mad as hell!

  how many times is another child molester going to get away with murder before the watchtower bible & tract society decides to do something about it?!.

  a close friend who left the org.

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  Well then........off to the police you shall go.....Don't hesitate. Worry about the religious stuff later. Get him out of the way.

  I did just this, no hesitations. Really. The very next day I was at the police station filing my report, then off to the hospital....or was it the other way around...It was bad day for us.

  I went into a stone cold mental place and just did it.............
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  regarding Jacksons testimony.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone here re-watched that last day?

  the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

  and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

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  Just highlighted it for you Village Idiot......have a look at the whole thing if you can. It's much better than I thought when watching it on Friday.....
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  regarding Jacksons testimony.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone here re-watched that last day?

  the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

  and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

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  Angus OWNED jackson in that moment and I believe he did it for us. Jackson must've felt like he just got ate by a wolf and sh*t over a cliff! We owe him one!!

  
  

  True so true Dumplin. I just couldn't see it on that actual day. I was too invested in seeing the" Mouth" roasted over a pit (very bad attitude) I forgot the subtlety of Angus Stewart........
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  regarding Jacksons testimony.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone here re-watched that last day?

  the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

  and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

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  "yes yes continue"... still looking down and fumbling with some papers.

  Wasn't that a delicious moment Dumplin !!

  I had been too emotional to appreciate it at the time. It was only after I was phoned by one of the team and set into calmness, that I was able to put some rationality back. I had missed so much in that first wonderful platform that was the Mouth of GB Jackson.
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  regarding Jacksons testimony.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone here re-watched that last day?

  the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.

  and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.

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  I am wondering if Angus' turning his back was deliberate. I think it was. It was a tactic to let Jackson know he's nothing special to the RC and to see if it flustered him. It told the RC plenty.
  

  I was so beautifully done that i had to watch it all over again....just waiting for that moment and the 34.39 minute section. Angus was on to him in a huge way, he was so wonderfully dismissive as he consulted his assistant and leafed through documents, as though nothing of great significance coming out of the Mouth GB Jackson, was too difficult to put into a back ground noise...........as he searched for more interesting info.......

  OutLaw, As usual your irreverence is totally awesome. I love your visuals.....really do. I think it was one of your earliest posts that had me laughing so much........I joined up
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  Local news Sunday re RC

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sex-abuse-royal-commission-church-elder-reveals-seven-men-control-jehovahs-witness-teachings/story-fnii5s3z-1227483516098.

  i thought you might like to know that this has not died away in a sort of one hit wonder.

  it is news in a local and international sense.

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  umbertoecho

  http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sex-abuse-royal-commission-church-elder-reveals-seven-men-control-jehovahs-witness-teachings/story-fnii5s3z-1227483516098

  I thought you might like to know that this has not died away in a sort of one hit wonder. It is news in a local and international sense.
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  New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

  by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hey all,.

  have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

  isn't this too much of a coincidence?

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  Is there a word for when you laugh at something that also makes you mad?

  Hysteria?
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  New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

  by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hey all,.

  have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

  isn't this too much of a coincidence?

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  umbertoecho

  tried this when I once got a broken arm, and it healed up almost immediately.

  Oh Splash, thanks for that. I'm going to do that straight away and melt those extra kilos away as I gasp the mantra............".I'm an integrity keeper", I'm gonna do that as I run along on my old old second hand stair master....
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  Sydney Morning Herald Headline about Compensation for Victims May Cause JW Organization to Gasp

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  geoffrey jackson's unfailingly diplomatic responses during friday's royal commission hearings have undoubtedly limited damage to the reputation of the jw organization - but i could never again imagine the watchtower and awake!

  magazines criticizing other religions over their responses to child sexual abuse within their parishes.

  too close for comfort.

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  umbertoecho

  steve2

  It doesn't matter if it's not in print. It's on the internet and can't be avoided. People are curious about this GB man and what he had to say. I think he sort of , kind of, may be'd the possibility of joining in with other organizations in redress.....He shouldn't be too hard pressed to get out of that jamb, using the "stay away from the world" scriptures.

  What he won't be able to undo is that fact that in principle he had to admit there was a problem and that redress should be considered. Neither can they shred the documents now held by the RC showing such awful figures and lack of action. Neither can they say something to the contrary when re telling their version of events. It's recorded and for that I am eternally grateful to RC and those who saved the videos. I feel better about this when I think upon it.

  The RC were polite to him, so that cans the wicked world of cruel unscrupulous people into the bin too. What is so perfect about all of this, is the calm and diligent manner in which the RC treated everyone. Now, I defy all witnesses to find fault with that.....