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  The Battle of Armageddon… LOL.

  by transhuman68 in

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  i was looking through a watchtower publication that i bought recently, and found this quote about children & armageddon:.

  our theme "rearing children in divine favor" does not refer to the rearing of the children of armageddon survivors in that new world when all surrounding conditions and all forces in operation will be toward helping those who live to do righteousness.

  no; but it refers to rearing children who are born now before the battle of armageddon.

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  umbertoecho

  I prefere Absynth absinthe, absinth, the green fairy drink....cant't spell at the moment "wormwood" made green and sugary and 75% proof
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  US Official Predicts End Of World Power Status

  by metatron in

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  http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/03/28/americans-must-adjust-to-a-world-dominated-by-china-feds-bullard-says/.

  an alliance could emerge that suddenly upsets the balance of power , making anglo-america number 2. already, the brics nations seem to be moving towards a loose alliance on many issues.

  either way, things are moving in china's direction.

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  I have to agree with "fulltimestudent"

  Living where I live and having worked in the mining industry, watching China mine the life out of the ore industry and cart it away at very, very low prices.

  They are very savvy, own more land in this country than we would like to admit. This includes huge amounts of farming and cattle land.

  Half of the large business buildings are owned by them and .......I could go on. My daughters partner is over there right now, and he said to me the other day that all is very thorough and organized. Actually to quote him (he is not religious) ..." they definitely have a one hundred year plan... All the infrastructure is in place....." " The roads and transport systems are organized and clean, and the average person lives really well...."

  This was his observation and it was a casual one. He is one of the most casual understated Australians I currently know.
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  My JW sister left JW husband

  by umbertoecho in

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  after years of looking down on me for not being "in the truth", being told (more or less) that my daughter died because i did not have the "truth" and therefore god's approval.

  my sister has, after forty years of marriage and fifty years of being in the truth....left her husband and her dis-fellowshipped son and gone to live with our other sister (who by the way is disassociated).

  i am amazed at this turn of events, as i have always been led to believe that they were a fine example of how complete and spiritually protected they were as a family for being in the jw religion.

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  After years of looking down on me for not being "in the truth", being told (more or less) that my daughter died because I did not have the "truth" and therefore God's approval. My sister has, after forty years of marriage and fifty years of being in the truth....left her husband and her dis-fellowshipped son and gone to live with our other sister (who by the way is disassociated)

  I am amazed at this turn of events, as I have always been led to believe that they were a fine example of how complete and spiritually protected they were as a family for being in the JW religion. Now I find that her son has been on drugs for over a decade and her husband is hooked to the internet when ever he is not at work or going "out on the work". All those damned years that I have been made to feel "bad" and "faithless" have been a scam upon my sense of self as a fairly good hearted person with a sense of humour and a love of art. So now the congregation will be in a sort of uproar, as they have always been seen to be the kind of JWs in good standing, zealously condemning the world, education, counseling, people in other religions............on and on it goes. Her world has fallen apart as she realises that her religion has not saved her son or changed the basic problems within her marriage. However, for the sake of appearances they have kept up this facade for decades.........only to end up looking like fools as far as I am concerned. I recall her attacking me vigorously for encouraging her to send her son to a rehab in order for competant people to help him out. His being disfellowshipped for smoking was the beginning of a down ward spiral and he never managed to get over the horror of being ignored at every meeting he went to. Now. As of yesterday, after finally discovering how bad his health is and how dangerously close he is to dying, upon consultation with a rehab nurse (they had to in the end) She has walked out of the situation. She said to me on the phone.."The only joy in my life, is in serving Jehovah and being close to His organization..." I kid you not! She actually said this to me. I think she is mentally ill, I really do. And I blame her self righteousness and her gory desire for armaggedon, her blindness to the GB and so many other mad factors in her cultish nature for this sad out come. I am really really angry at her and to evilly honest. There is a part of me that wants to poke a finger at her and say.........."...how truly blessed you must feel within this loving organization that YOU claim Jehovah has provided" The irony would be lost on her though as she has ceased to be able to think coherently..............raving a bit sorry
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  Victoria Australia, the FDS does not exist (eliciting gasps from the observers).

  by confusedandalone in

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  can someone please point me to anywhere that more information regartding this can be found.. i read a smidge about it in another post and would love to see if there is more info.

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  Also that bit about denying this FDS as a corporeal body of people is true. The wt lawyer is a creepy man and is proud of being able to twist anything. He said as much in an interview.
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  Victoria Australia, the FDS does not exist (eliciting gasps from the observers).

  by confusedandalone in

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  can someone please point me to anywhere that more information regartding this can be found.. i read a smidge about it in another post and would love to see if there is more info.

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  I have the transcript on my computer concerning this investigation/ Royal Commission into child abuse. I know that there was a legitimate issue raised by many including Steven Uthank regarding the "Working with Children" card that is required of any adult working in association with any child. The witnesses tried to sleaze their way around this issue, claiming ..........so much b##^sht ignorance of this law. If you want this document you are welcome to it.
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  TRUE PROPHETS IDENTIFIED!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  the prophets of science fiction.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prophets_of_science_fiction .

  i just discovered this series on netflix.

  it's pretty cool, fyi.. .

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  There was a movie made called "The Devils" which is still available. Could turn you off religion though. It is an old movie but don't let that put you off..
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  TRUE PROPHETS IDENTIFIED!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the prophets of science fiction.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prophets_of_science_fiction .

  i just discovered this series on netflix.

  it's pretty cool, fyi.. .

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  The Devils of Lodon or is Loudon. I very well written book by Isaac Asimov. About the inquisition.
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  War over preparing for WT study

  by cookiemaster in

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  2. experiences

  i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.

  with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.

  anyway the situation is the following.

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  I just had the elders wife drop off my watch tower (the simplified version no less) I told her that I really could read and had studied lit at uni. Her eyes were rivited to my art laying all over the floor however, as it was of nude women, and women with wings and fangs. She was probably saying a prayer for her safety whilst she avidly stared at them. I told her I could draw her some nice boring houses if she liked,and she said that was good and what did the wings on my drawing represent. I said..............um......anger in this picture and hope in that one..........she said they looked like gargoyles. She couldn't wait to get out of my house. So why don't you hang posters up of naked women with wings and fangs or something. Mind you the christmassy thing sound quite good......
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  Reminder: Hate speech on this forum is NOT tolerated

  by Simon in

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  some of the comments on the anthony morris topics have been despicable.. if someone is an idiot or a biggot then they are damaging themselves.. if 'we' start posting vile filth, insults and threats then it doesn't convince anyone other than we're probably as bad..

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  umbertoecho

  I am very new here and can say honestly, that if I had found too many "angry" attacks upon the the principle people of this religion, then I would have been frightened away. Call it years of indoctrination if you like, but nonetheless it is true. It took ages for me to find the courage to make contact with this forum. I needed some place to find out what the general thinking was. I did not want rage or disordered thinking. I needed some humor and some ironic comment to read as regards this religion. It feels safer if there is no "rage" or "hate" as far as I am concerned. That is why many will join..........if they do not feel threatened by out bursts of anger on this forum. That is why I felt it safe to join this forum..........No Hate allowed. If I find that I am wrong, then I will leave, as I do not to promote that sort of mind numbing attitude.
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  Meeting Today

  by lambsbottom in

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  me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

  felt great!

  gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

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  Bit of bad grammar and spelling there. Sorry, got a bit upset