would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
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Joe, I ask again what does it do for your theology to have the "all things" just mean humans? I really have a hard time reading John 1:1-3 and the focus being on humans. (as you stated)
After all you did ask where in scripture does the word human occur. And when shown, your non-response is telling. Why then would John not have used the word human?
Sounds more and more like, you just want us to trust you on this one.
would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
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Okay Joseph, you can impose this on the text, what does this do for you?
EW
would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
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Dog,
There [other] things.
would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
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Again we have humans under discussion, higher powers to which we are to be under subjection not beasts or plants. Thrones, dominions, principalities and powers all represent human governments that Paul will contrast with the Church. Such governments were both invisible to the Colossians as in Rome and visible such as the local authorities, but all such things are human.
Okay Joseph, you can impose this on the text, what does this do for you?
would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
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Joseph,
You have clearly ignored the answers I gave to your questions. As well as my basis, stands on the same premise as yours. I simply highlighted parts of the Greek definitions that cancel out your interpetations.
In fact back up to verse 1 in the begining. Ask yourself when was that? Gen 1:26? Further you continue to ingnore the phrase "anything that was made" certanily is inclusive of all of what?
Why doesnt John use G442, anthro¯pinos ?
The definition chosen must match the contextSee G442.
now that i've read ray franz's part about how his uncle and others with little actual greek or hebrew training translated the bible into the nwt, i've been interested in finding the best bible out there is correctly translated by people who know what the hell they are talking about.
niv?
i've also been looking at other religions lately, ones that are "somewhat" close to the jw's teachings to an extent, and have been interested in seventh day adventists.
I like the NAS, do yourself a favor and go to http://www.e-sword.net/ and download any Bible you want. Its a great program and its free. Except Bibles from the Lockman foundation.
hey everyone, as the subject might sugest... im new here!
they say first impressions last and i hope i make.
this a good one.. .
I started reading the bible and felt closer to Jehovah..
I hear ya! Welcome to the forum.
so i went to last nights bookstudy which discusses 6 paragraphs of the daniel book so there was lots of room for comment.
the study itself already was pretty frustrating it was taken from chapter 17 paragraphs 24-29 and it goes on about how the fds has to be lead by jehovah because of all the prophecies of daniel that fits them (1335 days was this convention to that etc etc).
but the paragraphs also mention the failed prediction for 1925. here are some interresting quotes from the book: .
It was very difficult for me to not comment and ask critical questions or to tell the real truth.
This is a problem for the cult member. Critical thinking. Do you feel like your the only one who notices this at the book study? Keep up the thinking.
EW
would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .
please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .
new world translation of the holy scriptures new world translation of the holy scriptures .
Now you know the basis for my claims. I am still waiting for yours.
Joseph
AV-all 748, all things 170, every 117, all men 41, whosoever 31, everyone 28, whole 12, all manner of 11, every man 11, no +3756 ; 9, every thing 7, any 7, whatsoever 6, whosoever + 3739 + 302 ; 3, always + 1223 ; 3, daily + 2250 2, any thing 2, no + 3361 2, not tr 7, misc 26; 1243
You quote a definition an pick out what you want, I'll do the same and perhaps you will see my basis.
G3956 pa??pas
pasIncluding all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole: - all (manner of, means) alway (-s), any (one), X daily, + ever, every (one, way), as many as, + no (-thing), X throughly, whatsoever, whole, whosoever.
You seem to be stuck on the "one" part as you feel it is personified. I checked my dictionary and the word all still means all.
The above coupled with other verses is ample proof for my basis. However you are now in the position to refute other scriptures that back up my basis.
Your theory might work if John had used:
G442
a?????´p????
anthro¯pinos
anth-ro'-pee-nos
From G444; human: - human, common to man, man[-kind], [man-]kind, men’s, after the manner of men.
Do you see the word humans anywhere in scripture?
Yes.
EW
god didn't make anything. all biodiversity you see is explained in biology with the theory of evolution by natural selection
Dude, your dogma is quite self serving.
