Beware of false stories....DC Talk.

by integ 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    "Beware of artfully contrived stories"

    How about this one?

    If you join our group of exclusively blessed Christian Witnesses to Jehovah, you will be among the few survivors on this planet when Jah brings armageddon. We will teach you the 'truth', never lie to you, will not cover up past errors. In addittion you will have the best possible friends you could have on earth! You will not have 'to touch the unclean thing', since we expell all wrongdoers and you will be able to share in the blessing of spiritual paradise by treating them as garbage. For your protection of course. You may have to leave your spouse or children forever if they sin. Or if you do, they will leave you forever. You will never grow old and die! You don't need an education since the big 'A' is nearly here now. Don't worry about health insurance and financial matters, you won't need them. Read the Watchtower and Awake and you will have the equal of a college education in very short order anyway. On and on, ad nuseaum!

    I think that is pretty artfully contrived!!!

    Jeff

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    Yet another artfully contrived story would be that the evil Witchtower Sassiety is the only religion that God approves of. You had better become a JW or you and your entire family will die!

  • Mary
    Mary

    Well when I was at the assembly, Fat Bastard stole my program and then lied and said he didn't have it when I questioned him. That was a false story ........they also had a weird drama where some ficticious friend of Timothy was trying to talk him in to getting a "better education" and of course Timothy refused. This was also a false story because there is no record in the bible anywhere that indicates this ever happened.......they also said that the Dubs are the "happiest people on earth", which carries more bullshit than a farm in Oklahoma.......

  • gumby
    gumby

    Foregoing an education means more money for the Society. Those who pursue an education and career are not going to financially support the organisation like a braindead window washer/janitor who buys his 6 magazines a month and puts 50 bucks a month in the contribution box.

    Gumby

  • upside/down
    upside/down
    I say, these people want their end date back. If they don't get it back, they will lose their hold over people. That's why they joined up in the first place!

    Sadly...that's a big reason why I joined the cult....

    u/d(of the got so screwed class)

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    I say, these people want their end date back. If they don't get it back, they will lose their hold over people. That's why they joined up in the first place!

    I agree. The WTS has learned not to set dates because of how every last one of the dates they have ever set has failed.

    The WTS is now trying to keep everyone in "the end is soon!!!" mode while never actually setting a date to look forward too. As the saying goes: They want to have the cake and eat it too.

    This is like putting someone on a treadmill running and then saying: "You can get off soon... any time now.... very soon... keep going, almost there.... you'll be done soon... keep it up.... any time now...."

    Only the treadmill will never stop going.

  • Agnes
    Agnes

    Re: they also said that the Dubs are the "happiest people on earth", which carries more bullshit than a farm in Oklahoma.......

    Happiest people on earth...rubbish! So true Mary! The last time we had JW relatives visit I was shocked to see such miserably unhappy looking people! Two of them shared that they were self medicating to deal with stress and assumed I'd be interested in using what they were taking. I'm not a JW and I don't have to medicate to be happy. Agnes

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Here's my notes from that talk, "Do not follow "Artfully Contrived False Stories". The title caught my eye, so I tried to capture as many quotes, verbatim, as I could. The purple words are my own thoughts. I have bolded manipulative language.

    The speaker, Darcy Harris, started out with a quote from that Nazi, Goebbels, "Watch your little children before Passover.", quickly followed by Richard Dawkins, then Satan. These quotes were used as examples of an artfully contrived false story to instil fear or doubt in the populace.

    Note to self: I think this is what is called a false analogy http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wanalogy.html Are they suggesting that anyone that says anything untrue (from a JW’s worldview) is as evil as Goebbels and Satan? It seems to me the WTS is as guilty, if not more, of fear-mongering. How afraid is the average householder of the suited gentleman at the door? On the other hand, how fearful is the average JW of a life-saving blood transfusion?

    “Satan and his fellow Apostates are artists in developing false stories”... Propaganda spreading like gangrene...as bizarre and hate-laden as Goebbels...relentless efforts of Satan to spread lies...incessant barrage of propaganda....”

    Note to self: Two books and several brochures a year and three magazines a month, reinforced by study three times a week? Can we spell I N C E S S A N T B A R R A G E? There are a lot of adjectives in this talk, which lead the audience to the proper way of thinking. This is loaded language. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadword.html

    The speaker goes on to blame higher education and pornography. “The drive of this system is to be elevated by education or financial status....People are convinced pursuing these things will provide satisfaction....world provides so much propaganda on what makes us happy or free....look out that their negative and subversive suggestions don’t undermine your faith....plethora of false stories all designed to weaken our faith in the organization and the teachings of the Faithful and Discreet Slave today..”

    Note to self: Yes, that’s right. Parents encourage their children only so that their material status can be raised. How about encouraging the child to reach his or her full potential? If Jehovah created a child to be a surgeon, concert pianist or a street artist, who are we to say field service instead? How many times a day does a JW convince him/herself that field service is a satisfying activity? How much more satisfying to pursue an interest that is beating in their lifeblood? Daniel had a satisfying career as a civil servant. The Israelite artisans from Egypt created a beautifully decorated tabernacle. Stephen, the first martyr, served widow’s tables. Can a JW today build for himself/herself a similarly satisfying career without being considered “spiritually weak”?

    The speaker then used an illustration of a merry-go-round. Apparently makers of false stories make you spin so fast you get all dizzy and can’t think straight. “...stories swirling around us...these stories that are designed to dizzy us and confuse us...” With this analogy, the only safe thing to do is to go closer to the center (FDS) and cling for all you are worth. “...carefully following the direction they give to us...”

    The three interviews had nothing to do with the Internet or Apostates:

    • Sarah Christian, honour student in business, chose field service over higher education. She is still a teenager, so I think the jury is still out on the wisdom of her choice.
  • Brother Thody from Fort McMurray refused a higher paying job at a production plant in a remote area. He was asked “What helped you resist the pressure”.
  • Kim Elena, perennially single sister, described how she resisted the temptation to use an internet dating service. She also mentioned the sister who did use the internet is no longer with the organization.
  • Conclusion, “How loving Jehovah and the Organization is to see areas where we need and help us to understand artfully contrived stories and direct us through these confusing times.”

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