What really bothers me about my JW research.

ithinkisee

Some of you may know, but I have been on a serious journey through watchtower "theology", and by association, have gone back all through the history of Christianity. I know many on this list have gone thru the same thing. I have checked out probably 100 archeological, religious, and history books from the library. I am now thoroughly able to explain the Trinity concept from the bible (not that I really believe the Trinity even at this point, but I am just working through the "layers" - if you know what I mean.) I can trace heresies and sects and different family lines of Bible translations and crap like that. Between sources on the Internet and the library and Amazon.com I have been able to acquire many of the publications - or at least scans of the publications - that the Society likes to quote from. I got semi-decent at researching Greek, and got a good Interlinear and also have a few bible translations to look through. I am fairly familiar with most of the early Church Father's writings. I figured out most of the Society's twisted chronology and can easily identify arguments in the literature where they use loaded language (hint: all the time) and when their teaching deviates from established chronology and - most importantly - from the Bible. I can explain how the meeting requirements, field service, blood issue, and other ridiculousness are not based in scripture. There are still a few of their chronology that I haven't worked through ... but for the most part I've got it down. ... all because I really want to have a firm grasp on the scriptures and on the Watchtower theology when I break the news to my wife.

Whew!

But the thing that REALLY bothers me is this: Jehovah's Witnesses died from refusing organ transplants in the 1970's. Then the Society changed their mind.

It's that simple! I have read two accounts recently of people whose relatives died from refusing "bone marrow" transplants in the late 70's. In one case only two years before the Society changed their mind.

I can argue VAT/BM documents, royal inscriptions, Ptolmey, Berossus, definite articles until I'm blue in the face - but it is as simple as this:

People offered themselves up as a human sacrifice to the Watchtower Society - voluntarily and unnecessarily. If that is not demonic, I don't know what is.

Just wanted to vent .... thanks ...

-ithinkisee

potleg

Thiis has always bothered me tooand the society has never issued anything that resembles an apology to the families of those who died..The Watchtower and Gov Body are drenched with the blood of those who trusted them.

Carmel

A more cogent and profound argument against the insanity of the JWs cannot be found! Tip of my hat to you!

I think you do see!

carmel

gumby

This has always bothered me too and the society has never issued anything that resembles an apology to the families of those who died.

Potleg.....the society has never apologised for anything that has ruined the lives of others. Why should gods mouthpiece need to apologise for anything? Jehovah doesn't give them new light until the time is right and they are ready for the light....remember? It doesn't matter others die....it's Jehovahs fault....not theirs.

These sick bastards never apologised for all the divorces they caused when they changed their view of what pornia involved.

They never apologised to all the men who sat in prison for not doing alternative service which later became a conscience matter.

They never apologised to all who were disfellowshipped for having different opinions of scripture when their veiwpoint changed to what the DFed one believed all along.

Good thing there ain't a hell, cuz those gray headed baldheaded GB cowards would be beggin for icewater oneday.

Gumby

toreador

Great Post!!!!

CyrusThePersian

I agree! After all is said and done, after all the research is gone over, it's always the simple things that nail their a$$ to the wall!

CyrusThePersian

GetBusyLiving

Hi ithinkisee, man can I relate to that post. I quit going to meetings for tons of different reasons, but I disassociated and speak out openly about the WTBTS because of this flip flop on organ transplants that killed people, the retarded blood policy and the shunning. I totally hear ya.

GBL

HappyDad

Excellent post ithinkisee. You nailed it right on the head.

And GBL........

speak out openly about the WTBTS

I do the same.

HappyDad

Momofmany

I can argue VAT/BM documents, royal inscriptions, Ptolmey, Berossus, definite articles until I'm blue in the face - but it is as simple as this:

People offered themselves up as a human sacrifice to the Watchtower Society - voluntarily and unnecessarily. If that is not demonic, I don't know what is.

Just wanted to vent .... thanks ...

Thanks for the vent. It angers me as well. Sometimes I think I am the only one who notices things, and then I come here, and you all let me know, there are still thinking humans in the world.

Aude_Sapere

It's more infuriating when you realize that the entire premise is a lie.

While believing that we would eventually live forever in a paradise on earth, that initial death was seen to be 'temporary'. The R&F (certainly 'me') patiently accepted the changing light and the over-zealous confines imposed on us/me.

Learning the truth about 'the truth' makes those senseless deaths heinous.

I miss my grandma and grandpa.....

-Aude.

What really bothers me about my JW research.

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