by Mary 54 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mary
    The baptimal question was changed to "god's spirit directed organisation" from gods holy spirit. In other words, your faith had to be in the organisation rather than in the Holy Spirit before baptism.

    Oh brother...........I missed that one! Well, I was baptized 20 years ago and I'm not sure what they asked me, but like Brad, I think the two questions we were asked were:

    1) Do you know that by getting baptized and identifying yourself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, that your life will suck even more than it does now?

    2) Do you realize that from this day forward, you will service US, and that resistence is futile?

    I was drunk so I just slurred "ya...........I guezzo.....................

  • one


    Your post below belong on this thread

    "positive about jw"

    I very much value some of the education I received in the organization. Not everything the society teaches is wrong. I have a very lucrative salary in part because of the experience and skills I received giving public talks and pioneering, as well as providing an excellent environment in which to learn a foreign language.
  • Namasti


    I know it's a good thing to find the positive-to make lemonade out of lemons and all that, but have you any idea of all the harm they have caused? I don't know why I have such a problem everytime I hear anyone who's been one of them and seen the dangerous cult that they are say that they have some redeaming qualities. With that said--I realilze I'm the one with the problem because I seriously hate them since---well, I won't go there at this time. Maybe admitting this will help me get over these negitive feelings.

  • justhuman


  • Dan-O
    I feel that as they saw that JWs were hoping the end would come in 1984, 70 years being thought to be a generation. Then they were waiting for 1994, 80 years then must be a generation.

    Seems like, when I was a kid, the reasoning was that it wasn't just that people born in 1914 would still be alive, but those who were alive & who were old enough to understand the events that they were observing in 1914 would still be alive at the time of Da Great Tribbelation.

  • itsallgoodnow

    It will be interesting to watch what happens to the Witnesses over the years. I just hope I'm still around to see them completely crumble. That would be truly satisfying. Too bad it will just break off into splinter groups, pockets of people who can't let go of the power they think they have over other people. There will always be groups like this and people caught in their traps. Nothing you can do about that. But it would be sweet to see the this "organization" finished off.

  • freedom96

    What blows my mind is that it doesn't seem as though the rank and file witness has much noticed this. Isn't this a big deal??!!

    When I was active, it seemed as though the 1914 generation was all they talked about. Do they really realize that this all changed??

  • Mutz

    It just goes to show how much attention I was paying in my latter years as a JW because I totally missed this massive change of doctrine. When I was baptised in '83 1914 was a major selling point.

  • one

    Most people have short memory AND no intention to resgin their private club just becasue the directors rescheduled the game."millions will never die"

  • Number 6
    Number 6

    Hi all, interesting thread,

    I personally feel that the damage caused by painting themselves into the corner is already long done; we are just too close to it to see it. At some point towards the end of the 21st century, the religious historians of the time will look back at the period from around 1990-2000 and draw the line saying here marks the beginning of the end for the Watchtower Society.

    Irrespective of what the Watchtower does now 'the era of global expansion' (to quote Penton) during the days of Knorr and Franz from the 50's to the 80's are long long gone.

    It is, as has been said, just a matter of time.

    Just my thoughts.


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