Do you know of any "baptized" JW's that committed suicide or attempted?

by booker-t 78 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • M.J.
    M.J.

    Suicide rate statistics in the U.S. for 2002 was 11 per 100,000: http://www.suicidology.org/associations/1045/files/2002statedatapg.pdf

    Also see: http://www.suicidology.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=21

    That's 0.011% of the population for the year 2002.

  • M.J.
    M.J.

    http://www.suicidology.org/associations/1045/files/Suicide2002.pdf

    • Mental health diagnoses are generally associated with a higher rate of suicide. Psychological autopsy studies reflect that more than 90% of completed suicides had one or more mental disorders.
    • ? Diagnosis groups are at particular risk include: depression, schizophrenia, drug and/or chemical dependency and conduct disorders (in adolescence).

      ? There is a relationship between depression and suicide; the risk of suicide is increased to more than 50 percent in depressed individuals. On average about 60 percent of suicides were depressed.

      ? There is a relationship between alcoholism and suicide; the risk of suicide in alcoholics is 50 to 70 percent higher than the general population.

      ? Feelings of hopelessness (e.g., there is no solution to my problem) are found to be more predictive of suicide risk than a diagnoses of depression per se.

      ? Socially isolated individuals are generally found to be at a higher risk for suicide.

      ? The vast majority of individuals who are suicidal often display clues and warning signs.

      ? Individuals may display one or more of the problems or "signs" detailed below. The following list describes some potential factors of risk for suicide. If observed, a professional evaluation is strongly recommended:

        ? Presence of a psychiatric disorder (e.g., depression, drug or alcohol, behavior disorders, conduct disorder

        [e.g., runs away or has been incarcerated]).

        ? The expression/communication of thoughts of suicide, death, dying or afterlife (in a context of sadness,

        boredom, hopelessness or negative feelings).

        ? Impulsive and aggressive behavior; frequent expressions of rage.

        I ncrease use of alcohol or drugs.

    Recent severe stressor (e.g., difficulties in dealing with sexual orientation; unplanned pregnancy, significant real or anticipated loss; etc.).

    Family instability; significant family conflict.
  • undercover
    undercover

    I've mentioned it here before but a good friend of mine committed suicide. A lot of it was his inability to fit within the mold of being a JW. I didn't see that at the time because I was still in the org and just didn't understand how he could do it. Now that I'm out, I think I understand his angst and depression. I wish there had been a way from him to cope instead of giving up. I wish I could have understood better then and maybe could have helped.

    Another life lost thanks to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

  • Gordy
    Gordy

    I attempted suicide.

    Spent six weeks in psychiatric hospital.

    Diagnosed with acute clinical depression (probably had it for years they said)

    Six months later told by wife to leave home and family. Because Elders considered me a "spiritual danger" to the family.

    Have been separated for 8 years this month.

    Have not spoken to or seen, JW wife or two JW daughters, since I left JW's in 2001.

  • Perry
    Perry

    This is a very disturbing thread. So many burdens people are carrying!

  • jwbot
    jwbot

    :(

    I have attempted once, obviously failed. When I was a teenager, I was so depressed. Recently I came close but to be honest, the support I recieved from this board had helped me get through it...this place and the people in it are so invaluable. Thank you.

  • BrendaCloutier
    BrendaCloutier

    You didn't say if this Baptized JW was active or not.

    I wasn't active, but stuck in a very alcoholic violent abusive marriage to that good JW man. I had to get out but didn't believe in divorce. Afterall, JW's don't get divorced. I thought of murder. I truly did! But as I thought it through, no way was I going to spend my life in jail because of him.

    So one day - my 25th birthday - I played russian roulette with a 44 magnum (Smith and Wesson, 4" black barrel, walnut hand grips). I did the whole ceremony - one bullet, spin the cylender, point and.............click. Hmm. Point........click. I looked down the barrel, then pointed to the ceiling and.....................BANG! I'm still hard-of-hearing in my right ear.

    It scared the life back into me. I began working on myself. Lost weight. Did better at work. Finally realized I could support myself, because all of my money went for rent and untilities and food, all his money went for savings and alcohol.

    Since my dad was an elder on the JC, I heard about suicide attempts. One elder visit, the woman went to the bathroom, ran the bathwater, got in and slit her wrists - all while they were there. They were able to save her, but she was DF'd.

    I remember hearing about other suicides while growing up.

    My brother-in-law from my first marriage (that good JW man) finally after years and years of depression and added guilt because he couldn't be the "good" husband his JW wife thought he should be, put the barrel of his shotgon in his mouth and pulled the trigger. His 15 year old son hear the bang and found him.

    I don't think the suicide rate is much different than society in general. However, mental illness, depression, etc., are so looked down upon by JW's that it's more difficult to seek help when needed.

    HUG AND LOVE YOURSELVES!
    brenda

  • ACEofCAD
    ACEofCAD

    Sadly Yes I do. Me . . . This year has not been a very good year for me. I have been extremly depressed and made a few attemts for many different reasons(most because of my JW family). My last attempt, a couple months ago, almost did me in. I drank a quart of AntiFreeze, and ended up real sick. Three days after the attempt I ended up in the hospital with accute kidney failure. I spent a week in the Hospital and a month at home healing. I am now back to work, my kidneys are almost 100% healed, but I have a couple of new minor heath problems as a result. The Doctors said that if I wasn't 23 years old that it would have been a lot worse. I'm on medication now and I can see and think clearly now. I still have suicidal thoughts from time to time, but I am learning how to deal with them better. I just wish that I didn't let JW stuff get to my like this.

  • jwbot
    jwbot

    ACEofCAD: I wish I could give you a hug, just know that there are those of us here that will give you support.

  • redskymedic
    redskymedic

    I did when I was 18 and going through the motions with the JW's so that my mother wouldn't throw me out of the house. I couldn't take the pressure anymore. I am so thankful that I was't successful, they aren't worth my life.

    Red

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