WTS lied about Joseph Priestley and Blood

by hawkaw 68 Replies latest jw friends

  • Eusebius Hieronymus
    Eusebius Hieronymus

    Past my bedtime, I am tired. Forgot to paste something from the Flog book.
    Facts, man, just give me the facts:

    <Using the forms provided by the Society, the branch
    office should be notified of the person's name, the Scrip-
    tural reason for the disfellowshipping, and the date of
    the action. ( S-77 and S-79 forms )

    <A brief review of the evidence that was presented should
    also be given.
    A similar report is made when a person disassociates
    himself from the organization. ( S-77 and S-79 forms )
    A written summary of the case should be prepared by the
    committee and put in a sealed envelope to be placed in the
    congregation file.>

    See, that bad boy "disassociated HIMSELF from the organization." Elders and Society didn't do nuthing, ain't responsible for a thing.

    Jerry

  • Had Enough
    Had Enough

    Good Night EH:

    One thought I got from your post on the Six Expressions....

    I saw right away what the WTS big wigs are doing....covering their toushies in a big way. All responsibility falls on the elders...nothing can be thrown back at them (WTS) especially with #s 1-5.

    Question: If we mere r&f can see that, can't the elders see that for themselves? Shouldn't that be raising the red flag of caution in their eyes? Wouldn't they be looking into why these warnings are being made?

    I'd be heading for the door pronto if I was in their shoes.

    Had Enough

  • Simon
    Simon

    It may help if I clarify my own experiences seeing as it has come up in the discussion...

    I had written several letters to the elders compaining about the conduct and actions of a particular elder and asking if they could sort the matter out. Among many other things he had gone round the congregation telling people that we were apostates because I had asked him and another elder some questions at a shepherding that they were unable or unwilling to answer. The other elder was from another congregation and thought that they were perfectly reasonable questions to ask. In each letter, I specifically pointed out that it was not a letter of disassociation and no attempt should be made to treat it as such.

    One Sunday afternoon two elders called at my house to invite me to have a chat with them at the hall the the next Wednesday (note, just a chat, not a committee meeting). I told them I couldn't as I already had things planned that night but could at another time if they gave me more notice. They left.

    A week later I received a letter informing me that because of my refusal to meet with them, they were 'accepting' my dissasociation.

    I wrote to the CO explaining the background to what had been going on, including copies of all letters that I had sent and requested that something be done about it.

    He arranged for an appeal meeting with 3 local elders and 3 visiting elders at which they upheld the original decision. Kind of ironic isn't it being told that I was disassociating myself because I was refusing to meet with them ... at the end of a 3 hour meeting with 6 of them !?!

    I believe that dissasociation can be something that individuals may choose to do themselves by sending in a letter but it is also another way of disfellowshipping someone when you have not broken any rules or practised any wrongdoing but just want to get you out the way (in my case because they feared the questions I asked and because I was raising a stink about wrongdoing by some elders).

    Incidentally, at the meeting, I made sure the visiting elders heard all the things that the local lot had been upto and I have heard that there has just been a big shake-up of the elders with some sent to other congs. so they must have fed it back to the CO and investigated it (actually, I only believe that one of the visiting brothers was 'genuine' and actually wanted to help).

    Hope this helps.

    Just remember, when the announce that someone has 'DA'd themself it may just be a way to stop you speaking to them...

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Simon

    Thanks for the post - interesting.

    Question - Are you the "master" of this site?

    If you are can you somehow link this board to the Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood
    at ( http://www.ajwrb.org much like you have done for Kent's and Randy's site?

    I notice you have put Bill's site up on child abuse. And seeing this "Blood" also hurts I am hoping you, in your heart and for the children's sake, would be willing to link up with AJWRB.

    hawk

    p.s. - Your board has got some great contributors and the people have made me, an nonJW, feel very welcome. Thanks.

  • Eusebius Hieronymus
    Eusebius Hieronymus

    <Just remember, when the announce that someone has 'DA'd themself it may just be a way to stop you speaking to them...>

    Exactly. They wash their hands of you.

    Heart goes out to you, Simon. No matter what it's called, it's painful.

  • JanH
    JanH

    Simon,

    I believe that dissasociation can be something that individuals may choose to do themselves by sending in a letter but it is also another way of disfellowshipping someone when you have not broken any rules or practised any wrongdoing but just want to get you out the way

    Yes, I'm forcibly disassociated, too. They could not pin anything on me, so they arranged a hoax meeting and read in the congo the next week that I had DAd myself, in effect lying to their own congregation. Little good it did them, since a tape recording from the elder meeting was played on national TV the next Saturday.

    The journalists gave the elders a hard time, and this whole shit scared the JW elders here in Bergen so much they were reluctant to try to touch anyone even vaguely associated with us. A friend of mine got a DAing threat throuugh a letter (!). When contacted by a journalist about it, they retracted and apologized. Another friend who smoked had severe mental problems, and they used this is a loophole to annull his baptism, avoiding him being alienated from family.

    Don't get mad. Get even!

    - Jan
    --
    Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The DevilĀ“s Dictionary, 1911]

  • Simon
    Simon

    I suppose 'master' is technically correct hawkaw but 'janitor' is probably more appropriate, LOL.

    I've put a link at the bottom as you suggested. I didn't think as I was doing the others about adding the ajwrd one (doh!)

    Glad you have had a nice welcome - it's is true that there are some great posters here but it's also the friendliness and support that people give that makes it what it is. I appreciate everyone, whatever they contribute.

    There's a lot more to my story which is hard to detail (there is so much) but involves the elders telling me not to talk to my father for many years (he was df'd and emigrated) which meant I lost touch with him although since all this has happened to me we have got together again so some good has come of it all. The elder I complained about also stole some money that I know my father gave to him to pass on to me. He didn't know that I knew . I've had my car valdalised while at the hall - apostate scrawled on it and tyres punctured (this was before I am where I am now and just because of rumours spread by our lieing, thieving elder...)

    I don't know about you JanH - I know it would be easier to just walk away and forget everything but I feel that unless we make things as difficult as possible for them and make them suffer for what they have done to us then they will just keep doing it to other people. They only reform when someone makes them reform as far as I can tell (of course it will then be 'their idea' to change).

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    :: They could not pin anything on me, so they arranged a hoax meeting and read in the congo the next week that I had DAd myself, in effect lying to their own congregation.

    "DAd myself." Precisely put, as usual, Jan. Typical tactics--and disgusting.

    Time to put a fine point on this, relatative to blood.

    Why would the Society take the trouble to overhaul its procedure, not in print, but in the way described above, with the CO reading a letter that cannot be just copied by elders? Especially when the result is the same, shunning. Distinction without a difference, right? Just another bludgeon.

    Think about it. Is there a vote of elders in judicial proceedings when one unrepentantly takes a transfusion? No. (See the exact procedure, above.)

    (I think warm thoughts of Friend who also once went over this repeatedly on another board to make some subtle yet devastating points about the Society's duplicity.)

    Please note there are proceedings, nonetheless. Easier proceedings. No votes. Clear-cut directions.

    Can you see why this use of the DA category is being termed a shortcut to shunning? While not precisely "automatic," especially not "automatic disfellowshipping," it is as close as you are going to get.

    And can a JW rep look a government official in the eye and say we don't disfellowship for blood transfusion? The citizen has a choice? Not coerced? Mmmmmm?

    Who may be viewed as a the legally culpable party in a wrongful death suit? (A can of worms not for this post.) Clever, these Watchtower lawyers.

    There's an upside, but that will be for another discussion.

    Maximus
    Hey, Big Raptor. Maybe a cut and paste of the salient sections of the BMJ article would be interesting to the board?

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    Simons says that use of the DA category is

    :: another way of disfellowshipping someone when you have not broken any rules or practised any wrongdoing but just want to get you out the way

    AND they want to evade some responsibility and hopefully its consequences. The result is identical, shunning. I'm not playing with words, just trying to expose their hypocrisy. WHY they use this is important to understand.

    Simon, you're a class act and greatly appreciated. This watering hole has really turned out to be extremely helpful to many, many people. My hotmail account burgeons.

    Maximus

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Max,

    Hey, Big Raptor. Maybe a cut and paste of the salient sections of the BMJ article would be interesting to the board?

    I'm being stupid today. Are you talking to me? If you are, I have all 273 pages of that bmj (British Medical Journal) article by Dr. Sam Muramoto and responses (I loved Lee's Marvin's and Sam's awesome responses).

    Instead of cutting and pasting I am just giving the whole thingy. I have bolded the sections that I think you wanted.

    BMJ 2001;322:37-39 ( 6 January ) ( http://bmj.com/cgi/eletters/322/7277/37

    Education and debate

    Bioethical aspects of the recent changes in the
    policy of refusal of blood by Jehovah's
    Witnesses

    Osamu Muramoto, council member.

    Regional Ethics Council, Kaiser Permanente, Interstate Medical Office East, Portland, OR
    97227, USA

    [email protected]

    The medical community generally knows that Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions. Jehovah's Witnesses reject red and white blood cells, platelets, and plasma, even at the cost of their lives, but they accept so called minor fractions such as albumin and globulin as a personal choice.(1) The church organisation, the Watchtower Society, introduced the policy on refusal of blood in 1945. Since 1961 the church has enforced it by "disfellowshipping" or expelling un-repentant members who wilfully accept prohibited blood components. Other members are then instructed by the church to ostracise and shun the expelled individual. Internal dissidents have criticised this practice, which they feel coerces those who have divergent views on this issue and compromises autonomous decision making in medical care. (2 3) I analyse the recently publicised changes in this policy from a bioethical viewpoint to help understand the impact of this controversial policy on clinical practice.(4)

    Summary points

    Under recent changes in the policy of refusal of blood by Jehovah's Witnesses, members can remain silent about the medical treatment they receive and avoid religious punishment

    Such freedom of conscience hinges on the integrity of medical confidentiality, which may not be adequate for Jehovah's Witnesses

    A broadening of options for acceptable blood products could open the way for use of various secondary blood products

    Such a change could also make the distinction between acceptable and unacceptable treatments further obscure and subject to personal interpretation

    In light of these changes it has become essential to treat members independently of the church's official policy by exploring personal conviction and preference

    Policy changes

    Judicial proceedings
    In June 2000, the Watchtower Society issued a directive stating that the organisation would no longer disfellowship members who did not comply with the policy of refusal of blood. Its official statement to the media was that "if a baptized member of the faith wilfully and without regret accepts blood transfusions, he indicates by his own actions that he no longer wishes to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The individual revokes his own membership by his own actions, rather than the congregation initiating this step. This represents a procedural change instituted in April 2000 in which the congregation no longer initiates the action to revoke membership in such cases. However, the end result is the same: the individual is no longer viewed as one of Jehovah's Witnesses because he no longer accepts and follows a core tenet of the faith."(5) This directive was widely publicised in the press as a reversal of the policy regarding blood. (6 7) A similar policy was established in Bulgaria in 1998 with the European Commission of Human Rights,(8) in which Bulgarian Jehovah's Witnesses were promised free choice to have blood transfusions "without control or sanction on the part of the association." Although an official from the Watchtower Society denied any change in the policy then,(9) that there is a need to issue a similar directive worldwide two years later indicates that there has been a major procedural change in the policy for Bulgaria and elsewhere.

    To understand the real impact of this change it is important to understand how Jehovah's Witnesses are sanctioned for wrongdoing. Besides being disfellowshipped at the conclusion of a judicial process by which unrepentant offenders are expelled, a member may be automatically shunned if there is reason to believe that he or she has renounced a core tenet of the faith by some specific action such as joining another religion or the military and if the allegations are substantiated by an investigation. He or she is classified as having thereby "disassociated," and this policy change puts the conscientious acceptance of blood in this category. According to the rules of Jehovah's Witnesses both disfellowshipped and disassociated members are considered outcasts. In both cases the religious community must ostracise and shun the wrongdoer as set out in the official statement, "the end result is the same."(10) According to dissidents, ostracism and shunning by family and friends work as strong deterrents against leaving the religion or acting against the church's teachings, thus compromising the freedom and autonomy of patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses.(3)

    Nevertheless, the patient's autonomy differs importantly between the two procedures. Disassociation is initiated by the member's own action, whereas disfellowshipping is initiated by each congregation through a judicial committee.(5) Under disfellowshipping the member is expelled when the committee rules him or her guilty and unrepentant. In contrast, disassociation automatically excludes a member from the congregation only when the member's offensive action becomes known through self disclosure or substantiating evidence of the offence. Simply put, if the act of receiving blood is kept strictly confidential, disassociation is highly unlikely, whereas disfellowshipping would still have resulted from interrogation initiated by the committee.

    (Credit: FAYE NORMAN/SCIENCE PHOTO LIBRARY)

    "Primary components" of blood must be refused, but Jehova's Witnesses can "conscientiously decide" whether to accept transfusions of fractions derived from the prohibited cellular components

    Wider selection of acceptable blood products

    The other policy change came in the form of an article in the 15 June 2000 issue of the official magazine Watchtower.(11) After defining the "primary components" of blood (red and white blood cells, platelets, and plasma) that must be refused, the article stated that "beyond that, when it comes to fractions of any of the primary components, each Christian, after careful and prayerful meditation, must conscientiously decide for himself." Although some of these fractions, such as albumin and globulin, had already been considered a matter of personal decision, this new policy declared that "fractions of any of the primary components" are now acceptable. One of the most noteworthy points of this change is that the fractions or parts derived from prohibited cellular components are now permitted. The new policy cites interferons and interleukins as examples, but the most profound impact will be seen when and if haemoglobin based blood substitutes are introduced into general use. As recently as 1998 two representatives of the Watchtower Society wrote to a journal for researchers of blood substitutes stating that "[Jehovah's Witnesses] do not accept hemoglobin which is a major part of red blood cells . . . According to these principles then, Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept a blood substitute which uses hemoglobin taken from a human or animal source."(12) As haemoglobin based blood substitutes are now used in clinical trials with some success, this reversal of the ban on haemoglobin may have a major impact on the medical care of patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses who may participate in such trials.(13)

    Implication of the new policy on medical confidentiality

    Under ideal protection of medical confidentiality, decisions on blood transfusion made by a patient who is a Jehovah's Witness would be known only to the patient and the medical team, not to the congregation. This means that the patient would have almost full control over whether he or she disassociates from the religion by his or her treatment decision being known to the congregation. If the patient personally believes that the decision to receive blood components of which the church disapproves does not violate God's commandment, as some dissident Witnesses do,(3) then he or she could remain silent about the decision and continue membership provided his or her medical confidentiality is fully protected. Under the previous policy, any suspicion of receiving blood would prompt a judicial committee, which could elicit an involuntary confession from the patient and result in his or her disfellowshipping. For example, a red bag that a visitor casually observes hanging over the patient may be reported to the congregation without confirming whether it is a prohibited or permitted component. Such hearsay would have been sufficient ground to initiate a judicial committee. Under the new policy, such a formal inquiry is unlikely to happen, and the treatment would not be verified unless medical confidentiality is breached.

    Obviously this potentially greater autonomy under the new policy hinges greatly on the integrity of medical confidentiality. Even though this change seems to facilitate the so called "don't ask" policy on the part of the congregation by not initiating judicial inquiry, it does not address breaches of medical confidentiality regarding blood transfusions or the "don't tell" policy on the part of the patient.(14) In fact, in response to my proposal for a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for refusal of blood, Donald Ridley, legal counsel for the Watchtower Society, flatly denied such a possibility by saying that "it would encourage Witnesses to act privately in a manner they publicly declare to be wrong."(15) He implied that the private medical decision of Witnesses should be restricted by the church's public policy, even though some Jehovah's Witnesses do not personally agree with it.3 This religion has a history of tacitly instructing its members to breach medical confidentiality when other members are non-compliant with the religion's medical policy. (16 17) This tradition was not changed in the recent directive. As long as unsolicited visitors and hospital workers who belong to the religion closely monitor the blood based treatment of patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses, there remains a possibility that the patient will be forced to disassociate from the religion because of a breach of confidentiality.

    Increasing importance of doctors' participation

    The immediate impact of these changes on the medical care of Jehovah's Witnesses may seem subtle but is still important. Because the change in judicial proceedings has a different meaning to different Jehovah's Witnesses, and this change has not been announced through their official magazines to rank and file members so far, doctors are likely to encounter patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses who have diverse views on the consequences of accepting blood. Some patients may reconsider their previous stance on the refusal of blood in light of this procedural change.

    Because of these recent changes the use of various blood products is also viewed differently by patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses. The new policy is somewhat arbitrary about whether a product is considered "primary" or "secondary." Any product derived from a "primary component" can be considered secondary; however, there are many grey areas. For example, red cells are processed by leucocyte reduction, irradiation, and rejuvenation, and plasma may be processed through fractionation and treatment with solvent detergents into a secondary product. It is not at all clear whether these products areconsidered primary or secondary under this new policy. Some Jehovah's Witnesses may feel such distinction is left up to their conscientious decision. Others may consider only whole blood is unacceptable in view of the expanding list of approved blood fractions.

    An in-depth discussion of the entire blood policy with individual patients may become necessary to ensure truly autonomous decisions on blood based treatment. Their advance directives and so called "blood cards" should be re-evaluated with the patients in light of the new policy. For example, doctors may ask patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses, "In view of the changing blood policy of the Watchtower Society, the component you now refuse may be considered acceptable in a few years. Are you sure you want to refuse it and die now even if you may not have to do so in the near future?" The doctor might add, "If your conscience allows you to receive this blood component but you are afraid that others may not approve your action, you might want to know that the Watchtower Society informed the media on 14 June 2000 that they ended the procedure of disfellowshipping for those who accept blood transfusions. Instead, you may be considered disassociated if your action is known to the congregation, but I assure you that your medical confidentiality is legally protected." Needless to say, all
    medical information on the use of blood products in these cases should be protected from unauthorised review. Otherwise legal liability may arise because of unintended sanction based on breached medical confidentiality.


    Conclusion


    Probably the most important advice to doctors at this time of flux in the policy of refusal of blood is to treat individual patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses independently of the church's official policy. Each case needs to be discussed and treated individually. Although this has essentially always been so, in actual practice most doctors and hospitals have treated this group collectively according to the church's official policy instead of thoroughly exploring personal conviction and preference. Doctors have often been encouraged to contact the church's representative (its hospital liaison committee) to decide individual treatment. Such practice should be re-evaluated in view of the increasing divergence and variability among the members. At the present time, premature death of exsanguinating patients who are Jehovah's Witnesses on the basis of this changing policy should be averted, as further changes in the near future may prevent such deaths completely.


    Acknowledgments


    The views and opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of Regional Ethics Council, Kaiser Permanente, and Northwest Permanente PC.


    Footnotes


    Competing interests: The author has no competing financial interest. He is neither a current nor former Jehovah's Witness. His religious position is neutral and is not affiliated with any organised religion. He has served since 1997 as a volunteer medical consultant without compensation to the Associated Jehovah's Witnesses for Reform on Blood, a Jehovah's Witness group that advocates a reform of the Watchtower Society's policy on blood. He has relatives who are Jehovah's Witnesses and whose interest may be affected by publication of this paper.


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    (Accepted 11 September 2000)

    hawk (note Sam Muramoto is a class Dr. who assists AJWRB)

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