We in the UK are dealing with COVID all wrong

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  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    Here in the UK,. Of the 50,000 + covid deaths..the great majority were very elderly with underlying health problems, then the BAME ethnics, and the obese.

    That number 50,000 is deaths from any reason where there was a positive test within the previous 28 days.

    The median number of deaths over the last 20 years is about 600,000 a year.

  • Simon
    Allow hospitals to be overrun?

    They should publish the number of bed occupied due to Covid* and the total capacity. Any lockdowns should be local based on hospital capacity. The aim isn't to have hospitals not doing anything, it should be to utilize them fully (or else why have them?). The fact is that hospitals have never been at or over capacity, most have been emptier than usual as other procedures have been postponed.

    *That means, they are there because of Covid, not "there, and happen to have Covid".

    Talk in Canada about hospitals being overwhelmed turn out to be that 3-4% of beds are occupied by Covid patients. Don't believe the headlines and the hype, dig deeper.

    All the emergency hospitals built for the wave of infected were dismantled after never seeing a single patient.

    I was quite shocked to learn that the average lifespan once someone is put into a nursing home is 1 year. So early nursing home deaths, while sad and tragic, should not be the basis for locking down the country, killing the economy and putting people out of work. Especially when combined with other measures such as the hospital capacity.

  • Phizzy

    Here in the U.K we do get some info. on the number of beds in Covid wards that are occupied. The last Report I heard was a few days ago, I can't remember the figures, but a in a few areas of the Country were full, or near full, other areas not so much under pressure.

    With the specially built " Nightingale Hospitals" which the Government crowed about, after underfunding the NHS for over a decade themselves, and the previous New Labour Government having done the same, they realised they had no one to Staff them !

    A suggestion was made that they could use Military medical People, but they found that having made many of these folk redundant in recent years they did not have enough or them either !

    Yes, the Government are not dealing with Covid in any sensible way, they are now hoping the various Vaccines will extract them from the mire, which is to a great extent of their own making.

  • Earnest

    slimboyfat : What would you have done? Allow hospitals to be overrun?

    Has anyone watched the documentary 76 Days ?

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    here we are--3 months later--almost 110,000 here in the UK have now died within 28 days of a positive covid test. Thats double the number at the start of this thread.

    over recent years--the average morbity rate is .9%--so about 600,000 deaths each year.

    thats about 1643 deaths each day--from all causes.

    covid is currently claiming about 1400 a day.

    covid aint going anywhere--except mutating.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    so--whats your theory ?

  • perdurabo

    We are heading into a "new normal"...........they've told us enough times....we just aren't listening.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    with no intervention--the virus would have caused about half a million deaths in the UK by now.

    What is the government supposed to do ?

    Has anyone got a better idea ?

  • perdurabo


    Repetition for emphasis.

    It's about a "new normal" (i.e the old one is gone),

    It's about a "new normal"

    It's about a "new normal"

    Hey....didn't they say this is about a "new normal"? (I could be wrong......nobody else seems to hear what they're telling us).

  • perdurabo

    So you can all make it out...it's about this "virus"......but there is far more going on.

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