by Englishman 69 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
BTW: Given that the UK has one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in Europe, something is not working with either the laws or the education or both.
Fairy Liquid advert in Liverpool: "Mummy, mummy ... why are your hands so soft?" ... "because I'm 14"
Gumby,
From what most women have told me, they didn't enjoy sex as young teenagers. It's not that they weren't capable of enjoying it but for different reasons they just didn't enjoy it. I think I know why; but in the quest for good taste, I will not post my theories here.
Heather
In the US, it seems the group most interested in lowering the age of consent, often quoting Europe's already lower ages, is NAMBLA. Kids will be kids and will start as they feel like, regardless of laws. But, society needs to protect them from older pervs who can easily sway younger ones with money and gifts.
hell no....13 is way to young to even think about having sex.....I know some 13 year olds that still play with barbies......I think this is way out of control and that is why we have kids having kids.....no matter what way you look at it,children should be worrying about there education at that age......yes, some part of there eduaction is sex ed but it does not mean lets go out and try it to see if you pass or not.....i just think imo, this day and age that kids are forced to grow up quicker then what they can handle......lets keep our kids,kids for as long as we can...
morts
FlyingHigh... perhaps it's because of the inexperience of young teenage boys? Just a theory.
mortons... I appreciate your sentiment, but I think I would prefer say "let our kids be kids" rather than "keep them kids". I've experienced the pressure to be an adult before my time... not in sexual matters, but in other areas. It's certainly not healthy.
But IMHO, holding a child back to what is societally considered to "right for their age" is not healthy either. Different kids mature at different rates, and hopefully their parents will have the good sense to treat them accordingly.
FlyingHigh... perhaps it's because of the inexperience of young teenage boys? Just a theory.
Euphemism, that could be a factor at times. Also, girls are taught a double standard from the time they can understand: men are allowed to enjoy sex and are mostly well thought of in this regard. Girls are given the message that women are sluts if they enjoy sex. Guilt has a lot to do with it. Experience on the part of the man doesn't easily overcome the guilt obstacle. Once the guilt is overcome it's a different matter.
Who wants the age of consent lowered to 13 anyway? There was a time when you were a minor until you were 21 in the USA. I don't think children or teens are as cherished and protected in general as they once were.
Heather
Why can't kids stay kids longer? Sex at 13? Sex at 16? Too young! Our society seems to be working tirelessly at pushing our young out of the nest ever younger and younger. Why can't we just let them be kids? Why heap responsibilities on their shoulders that push them to "grow up" before their time. We give them keys to get into the house after school, because we are out slaving away to pay for our crap, while they are at home alone getting into trouble of one sort or other.
Governments can try to legislate and regulate our childrens activities all they want. It will be to no avail. I believe that the lowering of the age of consent legislature is just another example of society "lowering the bar" in an effort to mitigate the fact that some don't want to responsibly raise their children.
I speak this from somewhat of a "glass house". My granddaughter is a result of irresponsible teen sex. I love her as I never believed I ever could. She is sunshine and joy behind ebony eyes. I am faced with the conundrum that if my daughter had heeded my words and refrained from having sex out of marriage, I would not have little Mac, and now am forced to see that inspite of my sincerest efforts to instill in them my ideas and beliefs of morality, she made her own choice.I was a failure. She is a wonderful mother, she is 20.
I doubt that a 14 year old would be up to the task of motherhood.
Anyone that would think the proposed cahnge in the age of consent is a good idea, is suspect im my opinion.
Thunder
NAMBLA's credo is
Sex By Eight Or It's Too Late
scum
Thunder Rider......nicley said.....you took the words right out of my mouth...
.I also feel our government sticks their nose in there and wonder why they have all of a sudden out of control young teenage parents,who are so desperately wishing they could turn back the clock....I speak from so called experencie in this area....I was 18 years old with my frist,and even though my son was born when Iwas 19( which these days is quit old)....I felt like a little child when I had him.....Too grow up so quick as a single mom,was an experience I will never forget.....I went from a young teenager worrying about,where my life ws going, trying to get a education, and experencing with "sex" Just because "I thought" I knew everything......To a PARENT !!.....Like I said I was 19 when I had him,and so confused.....I would never in a million years want a young teenager to ever surcome such responsablities......There is no reason for it this day and age......EDUCATION is their key to life and that is what we should be instilling into them at such a young vonerable time in their life.....Not sex.....IMO....
Euphemism....With all due respect, can I ask was that pressure that you were facing coming from adults or children?....If it was coming from Adults, I think they were very unfair to you to put you in that possison, if that is the case....
morts.
I think that parents should work at being parents. Both of my children were still playing at 13, my gosh I think Anthony had a secret power rangers costume LOL
Mel chose to have sex after she graduated she was 18 almost 19. now she is almost 21 and is a wonderful Mother. Imagine it being legal for 13 years old that then takes responsibility off of parents and the teenage pregnancy rates soar. This also increases the dependency on welfare because can a 13 year old work legally ????? Underweight babies are very normal for teen Moms because they are not ready to be pregnant they are still growing.
I think lowering the age the result of parents not wanting to parent and pervs wanting access legally to young children
