I always likened it to North Korea. Even haircuts are monitored. -- pale-emperor
At Bethel, haircuts were monitored, circa 1970.
"unprivileged" - love that.
I wish I knew then what I no know now, and I could rush into the KH one fine sunday meeting,
screaming - "unprivilege me" .... "unprivilege me" .... "unprivilege me"
I'm sure they would quickly "unprivilege me" haha!
@fulltimestudent Fkn lol. Just make sure you're not raising your hand when you're asking to be unprivileged. That's too much of a luxury in the JW world:
Great post Wakemeup!
Even after 6 years away from the org, my mind is still boggled about how intelligent, empathetic people can be turned to behave in a ludicrous fashion. But then of course - its' a cult!
It makes me wonder sometimes - did the founders of the religion actually decide ahead to introduce tried-and-tested cult methods within the organization, or did these rules, thinking/mentality evolve as time went on.
I feel really stupid that I was even duped by the wts in the first place. All I can put it down to was the naivety of youth. Even worse is the pain and sadness I've seen on my daughter's face over the years when I've said we can't do this or that or go to such n such's house from school, no school discos, no after school clubs, having to tell her she can't do Irish dancing anymore coz i kept getting comments about her competitions (which were 1 Saturday every 2 months) taking us away from the ministry, being asked nearly every year if we can do xmas, listening to certain sisters pulling her (bad) qualities to bits and then telling her she needs to do this and that and behave this way to make Jehovah happy to get into paradise and I've just sat there imagining what I'd like to say to them in my head (which weren't nice things) and then consoling her at home afterwards, she's only flippin 12. I have snapped at them recently a few times when they've done it coz I'm reaching breaking point with them. Dunno why I couldn't see it all though til the last 2 years
@sillygirlforgotpassword Some ex Witnesses suggest that the Governing Body are a bunch of bumbling idiots. I actually think they know exactly what they're doing. The amount of of calculated articles which follow a known pattern for effective propaganda is staggering.
Check out these photocopies and see the comparisons between what WT identifies as manipulation techniques that the "world" uses, and contrast that with photocopies of their own manipulation in action:
I think the sinister undertone of being a cult can be traced back to Rutherford's ascension to presidency.
@Jrjw We all felt stupid - I hear you. But out of eight million people, YOU woke up. I'd say that takes a mighty amount of perception and awareness on your part. Quite a long way you've come from the docile, unquestioning drone you were originally conditioned to be by the organization. Power to you.
Wow - wake me!! That compilation drive is priceless!
Thank you for posting it
Great post Jo Ho.
and boy do I remember the announcement: "The cleaning of the Kingdom Hall is THE PRIVILEGE of the [insert name of congregation]."
@truthseeker Please. Those chores are as much of a privilege as mopping up the c*m puddles in a porno booth.
WAKE ME- Great thread, great thoughts ! I always looked at the term " we are privileged" when I was a JW the same as the GB trying to convince us that " being used " in "Jehovah's organization " was a good thing. It was a manipulation of the use of those words. " Being used " in the real world many times has a negative meaning like - someone is using us up dishonestly- and that's what performing those WT functions or "privileges " was - we were getting " used " but not in a good way. Peace out, Mr. Flipper