I appreciate "our" free speech.

by The Rebel 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • Simon

    You're doing quotes " wrong"

    Why the extra space ^ ?

  • The Rebel
    The Rebel

    I admit this O.P would have remained boaring without a good question on " freewill" So let's assume I am a man, I have left Jehovers Witness and I have knowledge where babies come from. ( Or at least I think I do?)

    So I now have free will: my important question is, do I :

    A) Look for a woman in satinex rubber body stockings.

    B) Buy my secretary flowers.

    C) Find a girl friend that loves me.

    The only wrong answer was " " return to meetings".However nobody can make anyone bite from any " apple" unless we want to. So the correct answer in my world is...whoops I forgot this "O.P" is about " free speech" not "free will" ( But with both we can make idiots of ourselfs)

    Correct answer ( D) Enjoy spending your life with somebody you love. ( And that can only start with ourselfs) and that's free will at its best. ....and with that the world will introduce us to some wonderful people.

  • millie210
    (I'm sorry the hate filled rhetoric stops me having dialogue with the more reasonable members here.)

    It doesnt.

    I am reasonable.

    I am your friend.

    I am here.

    The only thing that can possibly stop a dialogue between you and me is either you or me.

    ((you know I love you))

  • Spoletta

    Unfortunately, there is a group of people on this forum who are literally poster boys for the whole Watchtower idea of "free speech".

    Let me run down the attributes.

    1. Believe only what one side has to say.
    2. Accept cherry picking, half-truths, and outright lies if they are in alignment with their beliefs.
    3. No attempt to ferret out the truth by researching different viewpoints.
    4. "Them against us" attitude.
    5. Respond to any real discussion with deflection, strawman, and red herring arguments when they can't defend a position, and finally resorting to ugly personal attacks.(This last point is something that JWs rarely do, to their credit.)
    6. no ability for critical thinking.
    7. Highly resistant to cognitive dissonance.

    They have traded one ideology for another, with no evidence of having learned anything from their experience as a JW.

    When I debate them, I'm not trying to engage in real discussion, as I realize that it's a waste of time. I'm just putting out information that others can read, and using their ability to reason, see what's really going on in the world. I feel that it's important that people come to conclusions based on their natural curiosity and desire to learn, rather than marching in step with others based on a biased world view.

    When I first started commenting on controversial subjects, I was appalled by the reactions to my arguments, and tried to defend myself by responding in kind.

    Now I just point out the biases and inaccuracies of others, and really don't care what they say about me, knowing that the majority here are genuinely caring, thoughtful people with a desire to help others deal with the emotional pain of having been part of an ignorant, misguided viewpoint that poisoned many years of their lives.

  • just fine
    just fine

    It's seriously not as one sided as some are making it out to be. The liberals call the conservatives names, the conservatives call the liberals names. Lots of people here don't agree with my views. It doesn't make them stupid or me narrow minded. We just think different things. And since nobody on this board has any effect on my real life, I don't see why people get so bent out of shape over differences of opinion.

  • hothabanero

    Oh @Spoletta thanks for explaining how you are so much better than the rest of us!

    You are just angry bc we don't agree with your liberal talking points!

  • DesirousOfChange

    The WTS required us to all "think in unity as one".

    You don't have to do that here!

  • Spoletta
    You are just angry bc we don't agree with your liberal talking points!

    I'm not angry, just saddened by your inability to reason for yourself by examining different sources that might conflict with your rigid viewpoint.

  • _Morpheus

    I love how pointing out that islam is a problem turns into 'Muslim hate'.

    I dont hate Muslims but i can and will acknowledge that islam teaches them to act as the terrorists are acting.... would any of us be supprised to see a jw die from blood loss? Would we call a jw that died after refusing a blood transfusion a radical jw...? Or would we correctly say he or she practiced their religion as most jw's would...?

  • Jehalapeno

    Imagine if I said: "I find myself wanting to visit this board less due to the rabid anti-JW sentiment which dominates on here."

    Why is it okay to criticize JWs and be anti-JW, but not okay to criticize Islam and be anti-Islam?

    All of us ExJWs recognize the harm that the teachings of the JW cult inflicts.

    Why is it so hard for you to recognize the harm that the teachings of the cult of Islam inflicts?

    They have traded one ideology for another, with no evidence of having learned anything from their experience as a JW.

    Pot, meet kettle.

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