Another reason I hate the ACLU

by freedom96 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • rem
    rem
    The point is...if this guy were out in the middle of the street of this housing community burning the flag and the community was giving him grief the ACLU would be all over it...now wouldn't they (just nod your head up and down...ya know they would).

    The community would probably also give the resident grief if he installed an American flag in his window with flames painted on it. they would probably give the resident grief if he installed a permanent American flag barbeque display on his front porch.

    There is a difference between a temporary act of expression of free speech and a permanent fixture displayed in a community. I not so sure the ACLU would rush in to defend anyone who installed a permanent fixture of any nature that violated reasonable (and legally binding) rules of the community.

    rem

  • StinkyPantz
    StinkyPantz
    Now, stay with me here D...let's use reason...I know some of the X dubs are out of practice with the whole "reasoning" thing...but bare with me...

    Wait a sec, WHO said this? Not someone who is in dire need of tweaking his own reasoning skills . Look in the mirror hun. (Matthew 7:5) Bwhahaha

  • Francois
    Francois

    "They probably refused to let him for the same reason some communities don't allow satellite dishes. "

    Take a note. NO COMMUNITY anywhere, no matter how constituted, no matter how their by-laws read has the right to ban satellite dishes of ANY size or their placement. Can't be done.

    Antennas for the reception of legally broadcast radio, television, or ham broadcasts are under the SOLE jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission and no pip-squeak "community planning committee" or any of its so-called "rule making" can overrule the FCC. Neither can they dictate WHERE antennas can be placed. It's very simple. The FCC can, any one else cannot.

    If you have doubts, write to the FCC. Know your rights. Not knowing your rights is just exactly like not having them.

    francois

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    Francois: Many condominiums and community associations have restrictions on antennas, called restrictive covenants. This usually covers ham radio as well as satellite dishes.

    Just to be clear in my mind, you're saying that the ONLY group that can put restrictions on antennas is the FCC? Damn, when we lived in apartments I should have sued. They wouldn't let me install a satellite dish.

    In our area we have restrictive convenants with regards to having broken down cars parked in the driveway or street for over 30 days. The DOT doesn't impose that restriction, so is it also illegal?

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim
    There is a difference between a temporary act of expression of free speech and a permanent fixture displayed in a community. I not so sure the ACLU would rush in to defend anyone who installed a permanent fixture of any nature that violated reasonable (and legally binding) rules of the community.

    Free speech is free speech is free speech. It's not reasonable to ask an american citizen...who owns his property...in the United States...to not fly the American Flag.

  • rem
    rem
    It's not reasonable to ask an american citizen...who owns his property...in the United States...to not fly the American Flag.

    Some would say it's not reasonable to ask an American citizen who owns his property in the United States to not paint his house pink. If someone thinks the Home Owner's Association rules are too strict, then they should probably purchase a house there. The other option is to vote to change the rules or maybe campaign in the neighborhood to change the rules.

    rem

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim
    The ACLU's founder, Roger Baldwin, stated: "We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal." (Source: Trial and Error, by Geo. Grant)
  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    Yeru: Disturbing quote. When was that statement made?

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    In his early years...I'll get the exact date...but it gives you an idea of what the ACLU is all about...trully the American Communist Lawyers Union

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    I found one site that said 1917 1935. That was a long time ago. Communism/socialism sound good on paper, but obviously they don't work very well in practice.

    I figured it must have been a very old quote. If it was made within the last 50 years it would have had more shock value.

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