More lies from fake news.

by mickbobcat 42 Replies latest social current

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    from article: "Rising sea levels, pushed west by gradual extensions to training walls on the Buller River, have slowly eroded the shoreline at Carters Beach over the last century. "

    100 years of manmade structures changing currents. Not climate

    The climate is and always changes. Causing upheavals in social constructs and mis identifying, ( magnifying) causes will do more damage

  • Vidqun

    Rivergang ask yourself, is the sea rising or the land sinking? That video you suggest mentions erosion. Not much to do with sea levels rising. Note the slant MSM is giving the article. Must be sea levels rising. Another thing. New Zealand is situated at a geographic location with major faults. Note the active faults running through the islands.

    Africa's west coast is sinking forty feet a year. Nothing to do with sea levels rising. The same article mention sea levels of the world are to rise 76 cm by the end of the century, whereas Africa's west coast is slowly but surely being submerged by rising sea levels. It's predicted that the horn of Africa is going to tear off in the foreseeable future. Could it be that the east coast of Africa is rising? Follow the logic.

  • Rivergang

    New Zealand sits astride the junction of two of the earth’s major continental plates, and is geologically young. The effect of this, though, is the opposite of what has been suggested.

    Rather than slowly sinking into the South Pacific Ocean, the South Island at least is still being pushed upwards by the interaction of those two continental plates, along what is known as “The Alpine Fault” (which slices the island in half on an oblique line running north east-south west). Not exactly rocket science, I recall this from Grade 10 Geography.

    The Buller River is not the only issue, either. Similar problems are being experienced all along that section of coastline, well out of the way of the Buller or any other river.

    What may or may not be happening in Africa has little bearing on this one.

  • hoser

    The latest fear mongering from the mainstream media is the moon is going out of orbit and causing more king tides. Combined with rising sea levels from global warming watch out if you live in coastal areas, but the bank will still give you that 30 year mortgage if you want to buy a crappy condo in Florida.

  • Rivergang

    Climate change is not all just a construct of the MSM, Fake News or similar.

    The above photograph is of Lake Tasman, in New Zealand's Mt Cook National Park. As little as just 20 years ago, this was a glacier. Since then, the Tasman Glacier has greatly retreated to the point that it now has a sizeable terminal lake. Prior to that, the Tasman Glacier did advance and retreat over the decades, but never to the point that a terminal lake formed (not even close, in fact!).

    A similar situation has also developed on the opposite flank of Aoraki / Mt Cook, where the Hooker Glacier has likewise retreated so far that a large terminal lake has now formed where there was none before.

  • joey jojo
    joey jojo

    Rivergang, there is evidence of global warming everywhere you look.

    A lot of the same people that don't accept the science are the people that are anti vaxxers, anti maskers anti 5g etc.

    If the earth's temp changes a couple of degree's over a century, what's the big deal they say?

    The big deal is that it only takes a couple of degree's to change the earth from being cold, to becoming an iceball. Or, going the other direction in temperature , a tolerance of a couple of degree's that drives extinction events.

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    @Rivergang, just a few thousand years ago, most of North America was glacier. Canada still is. Climate has changed and will again, there is nothing we humans can do about it. Yes, we may have an impact, but most scientists will admit this only contributes to 1.5-3C over the next 100 years. Millions of years ago, the earth was an actual greenhouse with average temperatures over 20C higher than today. We now call it the Cambrian explosion, when life exploded from a few microorganisms and shellfish into the ancestors of every species on earth.

    It all depends on your time scale, humans need to adapt, there is nothing we can do now to reverse global warming, that time was 200 years ago, hurricanes are dying down and forests are exploding in growth, we control natural forest fires and they will become bigger and bigger each year. We need to prepare for change, not try to prevent it. Ask the aussies what happened when they tried to control nature, they got bunnies, lots of them, so they built a fence, so they have created entirely different ecosystems and even went to war with the emus (and lost), now they have rodents everywhere.

  • Rivergang
    it only takes a couple of degree's to change the earth from being cold, to becoming an iceball. Or, going the other direction in temperature , a tolerance of a couple of degree's that drives extinction events.

    Joey, you have nailed it there!

    This marked retreat of the Tasman and other of New Zealand's glaciers has occurred in less than 20 years, during which the country's average temperature has increased by 0.3 degrees Celsius (when compared with the thirty year average temperatures 1961-1990).

    i.e. A temperature increase of not even one third of a degree Celsius has been enough to remove long lengths from what once were large glaciers, and leave in each place a terminal lake.

    (New Zealand's thirty year average temperature 1961 to 1990 was 12.47 deg.C. The country's average over the seventeen years 2000 to 2016 - while this rapid glacial retreat has taken place - is 12.77 deg.C)

    For anybody that is interested, this data can be found via the following link

    Temperature | Stats NZ

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    NASA reports:

    According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.

    What should politicians do to help stop the build up of ice in Antartica? Reduce our freedoms? Tax us more?

  • Rivergang

    Video: Antarctic Ice Mass Loss 2002-2020 – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (

    See the above link for more recent data about the loss of ice on the Antarctic continent.

    (This data also from NASA).

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