Beth and Sigried - you don't have to get people to believe your rubbish. All you have to do is take the platform/loud speaker and make sure the oppositions keeps quiet.
(Daniel 7:8) . . .And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things. . .
Bit like the debate on this thread.
This thing on speculating on the King of the North, King of the South, Wicked Witch of the East and Wicked Witch of the West will go on to time indefinite, even forever.
When the Book of Daniel was composed in 164 BCE it was addressing their local situation. The "King of the North" related to the Seleucid Empire and the "King of the South" referred to the Ptolemaic Empire.
Not only did the writers' expectations fail, this was just one of a series of historical mistakes and errors in their book. The main issue for the writers was to give comfort to their community during the oppression they were experiencing, so any invented story that achieved this (for example, chapter 4) was good enough.
In every age since then, there have been people stirred up into a frenzy, saying that these statements were predictions that specifically referred to their own time. Even the writers of the Gospels got caught up and put their ideas onto Jesus' lips.
Relax, folks. Learn history's lesson: there will always be people who take advantage of the gullible for their own desire to control others. Ignore them.
''In every age since then, there have been people stirred up into a frenzy, saying that these statements were predictions that specifically referred to their own time. Even the writers of the Gospels got caught up and put their ideas onto Jesus' lips,''
From James Penton's ''Jehovah's Witnesses and the Third Reich''
The Montanists movement spread after 150 A.D. from Phrygia. All new prophecy was to come through their leaders. It was from their eschatology that the Montanists developed practises and beliefs which would foreshadow the beliefs and practises of the Jehovah's Witnesses some seventeen centuries.
The Montanits like the JW's in the 20th Century pointed to the disastrous conditions of their time asserting that they were living the ''last days'' leading up to the ''millennium''. Severe epidemics at that time, were quite fitted to fit their narrative of the final age, and then to reveal the four apocalyptic horsemen riding over the earth. This was around 150 A. D. and some of the subsequent years after.
Yes, there have been ''end times'' groups right through the centuries.