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  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    MuddyWaters: And it was bizarre to hear O'Brien talking about "redress" or money going to be given to WT's victims of child sexual abuse to help them with their care or counselling.
    At the end, it looked like McClellan seemed almost eager to unleash some punitive measures, you could see him flexing his hands and getting ready to give WT a good what-for. Did anyone else get that impression...?

    I think McClelland was responding to O'Brien taking the position that the WTS rejects the Commission's scope of their terms of reference applying to them. In the report the ARC released, they rejected the WTS' claim that most of the cases were familial and they shouldn't be included under "institutional abuse". The Commission had made it clear that they did not accept the WTS' position yet here they were - asserting that the ARC was still wrong and they are right. O'brien went down with the ship.

    I think that the WTS is going to try to use that argument for not paying out redress to claims - that they weren't responsible. That is wasn't part of the "terms of reference" that the WTS seems to think they have the right to determine.


    finallysomepride: Just watched the Uniting Church reply, what a huge contrast, they make jws look like idiots

    They are idiots.

    They don't even have a clue as to how to properly reference and source material. They just did like they always do - they threw some sort of obscure, barely related source material down at the bottom of the page and hoped nobody would follow it up. And, when they were called out on their dumb reference, they offered some dumb excuse. But they can't admit that they are just stupid and don't know correct referencing styles and formats.

    They exist in WT land and WT speak world and can't for the life of them figure out why nobody is buying their shit

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow

    The worst, though, the very very worst of the whole performance was when O'Brien pulled out his silver sword and gave a witness to the room. And to everyone watching.

    He read a frikking bibble scripture!

    Painful, utterly painful

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts
    The worst, though, the very very worst of the whole performance was when O'Brien pulled out his silver sword and gave a witness to the room. And to everyone watching.

    That was amazing. There were 5 very competent judges sitting there, and O'Brien read out the following to show why Watchtower does not feel any obligation to follow the ARC advice.

    Isaiah 33:22 For Jehovah is our Judge,+Jehovah is our Lawgiver,+Jehovah is our King;+He is the One who will save us.+


    Seriously Terry, what were you thinking? It was so cringe-worthy.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    jwfacts: Seriously Terry, what were you thinking?

    He probably got his "spiritual instructions" from Jackson.

    "Make sure you pull those scriptures out and make sure you recite them. Out loud. That will give you magical protection from those big bad guys at the ARC. Guaranteed, with the Glorious Ones' seal of approval, to put Satan behind you"

  • smiddy
    smiddy

    Jwfacts ,that was priceless , those judges must be thinking what planet are these people on.

    Unbelievable , the mind boggles.

    Over 1100 people from all over the world were critical of the WT`s handling of child sexual abuse that QC Angus Stewart commented on.

    The ARC were dissapointed that the GB of the WTB&TS refused to send a GB member to front the ARC.

    Spinks and O`Brien are obviously way out of their depth in responding to the ARC they just come across as so inept .

  • berrygerry
    berrygerry

    "Jehovah is Judge"



    Flock book - page 82

    Serving on a judicial committee is a heavy responsibility.
    You are judging for Jehovah
  • respectful_observer
    respectful_observer
    jwfacts: Seriously Terry, what were you thinking?

    He probably got his "spiritual instructions" from Jackson.

    "Make sure you pull those scriptures out and make sure you recite them. Out loud. That will give you magical protection from those big bad guys at the ARC. Guaranteed, with the Glorious Ones' seal of approval, to put Satan behind you".

    .................................

    I honestly think that their reading scriptures, although cringe-worthy to all former and non-JWs watching, is intended purely as a "message" to all mentally in JWs. The GB knows there's nothing they can do or say that will put JWs in a positive light to the rest of the world, so to best they can do is use it as a opportunity to send a message to bolster all the faithful witnesses that they are being persecuted for following the Bible rather than man.

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Well, didn't Jesus say that when hauled before judges, He and Jehovah would help with the words to say?

    Well, it seems that Jesus and Jehovah were asleep today!

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    There is no better way for me to describe the Jehovah's Witness religion and the organization behind it, know as the WTBTS...than simply to say...train wreck! :) :)

  • jwleaks
    jwleaks
    OrphanCrow - They don't even have a clue as to how to properly reference and source material. They just did like they always do - they threw some sort of obscure, barely related source material down at the bottom of the page and hoped nobody would follow it up. And, when they were called out on their dumb reference, they offered some dumb excuse. But they can't admit that they are just stupid and don't know correct referencing styles and formats.

    Don't be fooled by Watchtower's strategy. They knew it was a short hearing and they merely tried to run down the time. Their strategy failed. Did you notice that every single time the Watchtower was caught out on a dumb reference, or some unrelated out-of-date reference, they had a reply already prepared. Spinks and O'Brien already had the answer to the error and mumbled on for as long a possible. Neither Spinks nor O'Brien needed to use the Ringtail to review the reference under discussion. This is no coincidence. They knew the answer because they had rehearsed.

    Watchtower merely presented in their statements, submissions and letters as a string of red herrings. They wanted the ARC to focus on these red herrings. The ARC was not fooled but gave them enough rope.

    In my opinion, the ARC deliberately gave Watchtower what they wanted with a good dose of heavy condemnation thrown in. What was the Watchtower trying to hide? Methinks the ARC knew and let the Watchtower do what they wanted. There was something Watchtower wanted from the ARC, namely specific feedback and approval on a certain matter, and they never got it. Watchtower failed to get this and now they have no clear direction in what to do. Watchtower have painted themselves into a corner and misjudged the situation.