scientists are looking for explanations
Fair enough. You didn't seem to make the distinction between atheists and scientists so I didn't bother either.
I agree (and that was somewhat my point in my first reply to this topic) that JW processes tend to superficially mimic scientific processes. The big difference being that 1) JW invent a conclusion and then look for twisted ways to support it, where scientists study evidence and draw a conclusion afterwards, and 2) in science normally the conclusion is changed when new evidence is discovered, whereas JW can change their doctrine 180 degrees and have both positions supported by the same 'evidence'.
it has never been demonstrated, that the Universe created itself or that life arose spontaneously. Efforts to replicate he latter have failed so far, and examining the energy level of the former even on the smallest scale took great effort and ingenuity.
If the demonstration of something is needed to verify it's factual correctness or possibility, please provide some demonstration of the following:
1) a god popping into existence
2) a god being alive and acting
3) divine creation
Anyway, you missed my point about self-started life completely. Please pick one of the below positions that you can accept, or state something yourself.
- God=life. God=eternal or self-started. Thus life=eternal or self-started.
- There is no Creator. Thus life=eternal or self-started.
In my view, regardless of one's convictions, the conclusion is always that life self-started.
Just because many people choose to put label 'God' on the big unknown how/where life self-started, doesn't make it less self-started.
So to me it's strange that one could use 'life could never have self-started' as an argument against the other position.