Next door: However, the court of public opinion will weigh
Unfortunately, this doesn’t matter much at this point; they
are not making new converts. The majority of their new members are their
children and these are the ones the government is seeking to protect.
Next door: If every JW victim in Australia got the full amount we are
talking over $150 million AUD.
While I join everyone in wanting to hurt the WT organization
financially for their reprehensible actions, this will actually do little in eradicating
the cult. People will keep practicing their “religion” through zoom and
meetings in their various houses or individual properties.
They don’t need any of their buildings to keep their faith.
Sure, they’re ability to bring in new members will be reduced, but that has
already been the case for a few years now. So, I don’t actually see much impact
from removing their buildings, studios, etc.
The only way to stop them is to criminalize certain actions
that are no longer acceptable today; among these things are people not
reporting child abuse to the authorities.
Witnesses have not sponsored any programs or activities that separate children
from their parents at any time.
Yes, they do/did: They coupled young kids with experience
pioneers. Brothers often have bible studies with the kids of single mothers.
They often send out kids in service with adults without their parents.
I personally see nothing wrong with the above by the way.
Parents are ultimately responsible to know who they trust. But we cannot say
that they don’t have activities that separate the kids from the parents.
charitable status should be revoked and they should definitely not get any
Government money funded support at all.
I agree, however, as long as they are considered a religion,
this will not happen. Unless the governments no longer view ALL religions as
it can be shown that they have repeatedly broken the law by failing to report
abuse in Australian states that have a reporting law.
I’m not a legal expert, but it appears that these laws only
have financial implications, they are not part of the criminal code where they
could send those responsible in jail for it. That needs to change.
Smiddy3: At the
ARC Geoffrey Jackson the Aussie G.B. member said it would make their life
easier if it was mandatory for them to report such instances
That was one of the most nauseating things he said. They take
zero accountability for their actions and shift the blame on the government.
Typical abusers. I heard apologists say that they could be sued if they broke
the confidentiality of some pedophiles. Strangely, instead of taking that fight,
they take the one that puts the kids at risks.
Cofty: BUT if
the govt make reporting compulsory they will comply.
Even if it was criminal to not report, I suspect that they
still wouldn’t until a few of them have been put in jail for it. Long jail sentences
are not needed. Just long enough to lose your job and have a criminal record.
That will make a whole lot of people think twice.
I can imagine a conversation like this: Why are Brothers
Smith, Banks and Craig going to jail for 60 days? Well, they didn’t report a
pedophile to the police and that pedophile made 2 other victims. So, they were
judged as accessory to his crimes.
Phizzy: The JW
Org has done its usual callous calculation, no thought, let alone love, for the
victims. It is calculating that to lose Tax Exemption would cost them far less
over the years than paying up to $150 Million AUD.
They won’t lose it. These are empty threats and they know it.
As they already don’t bring in new members from the public, they don’t care
about their public image either. They have gone full cult mode.
Cofty: Do we
know the sum that they are being asked to contribute to the scene?
Even if it was 3 million, they wouldn’t. It would imply saying
sorry which sounds impossible for them. I’ve never seen them say sorry for
No-zombie: when the
Organization loses its non-charity tax exemption, what would be actual loss to
them. I'm assuming that any donations given to the local branch would be taxed.
That won’t happen. They’ll go full persecution mode and will
go underground, not declaring any income of any kind. It would actually be easy
when you think about it.
with crofty the money is important but what is more important is saying sorry because
that would mean acknowledging that the inspired word of god is wrong regarding
the two witness rule
They won’t say sorry because it would bring their “reproach”
on their organization. Never did, never will. The reason they don’t report to
the police has nothing to do with the bible. Even when guilt is established,
they still don’t report to the police. Hence, this has nothing to do with the 2
witness rule. Its all about them not wanting to let the authorities in what
they perceive as being “their business”.