Barred from entering kh

by poopie 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • poopie

    Correct must be in wrtghting


    If this incident did happen, then it would make a good story for the local paper. They do not want to bring reproach upon Jehovah's name so who loses then.

  • Fisherman
    You must give the court a reason why someone from the public is barred from a public place

    Depends on local laws but in the US everyone is invited to attend a public meeting in a KH. The invitation to attend a KH is a license that can be revoked. A KH is a private place not public. When a person's invitation is revoked such person has no right to be there and can be arrested for trespassing. If such person claims that he was being treated in violation of the law, the burden of proof is on the person making the accusation, but that is another matter all together.

  • dubstepped

    So then poopie, they have a legal right to bar him. It's not rocket science.

    Again, why does he want to be there where he's unwanted? Does he think tgat somehow he will get a lawsuit out if this or something?

  • MeanMrMustard

    Barred from entering the KH by the elders. Translation: “We are forcing you to live a better life. Now, go have a decnt evening. If you insist on being bored out your mind and dying slowly inside, then we will be forced to get the authorites involved. We won’t tolerate you ruing any more of your life...... oh, and nice shoes.”

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    @Fisherman: It depends, there is a bunch of corporate law as well, if you are a 'member' of the corporation, you usually have statutory rights to be in "public meetings". You would have to look at the bylaws of the local congregation to see how they decide to designate 'members' but if you have a congregation that's rather old during the time they sold literature, they would've designated members in a certain way to avoid paying taxes, however you can't just change those bylaws without a proper vote, something the WTBTS typically avoids doing and many more elders simply do not understand or document.

    Given that many people on the "board" for the congregation are lay people, I would estimate that for a majority of congregations, any seasoned lawyer will be able to make mincemeat about the congregation's standing in regards to disfellowshipped ones in court. The disfellowshipped designation is an organizational designation of a member at best, as long as they keep track of your file and do not explicitly make a note and notify you in writing that you are not a member of the local corporation, you could argue you are a 'member' of the local congregation.

  • poopie

    We will let court decide

  • poopie

    Everyone can have thete say in court

  • Fisherman

    AM You don't know what you are talking about. The KH is not a public place. Meetings at a KH are not public. Neither does calling them public meetings held there make them such. The public has not right to be there. People of the general public including df are there by invitation. Such invitation can be revoked at anytime. The mumbo jumbo you posted about corporate "bylaws"does not give someone DF the right to be at a KH meeting.

    @poopieEveryone can have thete say in court

    But sometimes you pay a very expensive price -more than you figured it would cost you.

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