Barred from entering kh

by poopie 38 Replies latest jw friends

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  MeanMrMustard

  Left out of the story: he arrived at the meeting wearing his best meeting shoes ... only.

  And then he greeted someone in the parking lot.... with a “helicopter”...
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  poopie

  The problem with that reasoning is your house is not a public place.
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  poopie

  For example a restaurant is a public place you can refuse to serve someone if it's not based on discrimination. IF you do then your liable to a law suit .
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  poopie

  So the question is what constitutes a disturbance from the courts point of view. IF it is open to the public.
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  poopie

  You must give the court a reason why someone from the public is barred from a public place.
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  poopie

  IF reason is not good enough then you will just continue to call the police and they will get tired of you when you can't prove to police or court.
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  poopie

  That he is causing a disturbance comprende
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  poopie

  Come on let's come out to play
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  Anony Mous

  It largely depends on your jurisdiction and what the meeting is declared as.

  If it's a "public meeting" of a non-profit organization then you have a first amendment right to be there, especially during times they announce the financial standing of the corporation (eg. to cast a vote if you have voting rights) especially if you're on the rolls as a member or officer of the corporation (the local congregation would be it's "own" corporation) except under 'extreme circumstances'.

  The corporation (a few elders as "officers") must give written notice to you and a due process to ban you from scheduled public meetings. I think the way congregations are structured, everyone on the 'rolls' is a de facto member of their local congregation's corporation because otherwise they'd get in trouble with the IRS, not sure what happens when you're disfellowshipped.

  Either way, they must follow certain processes and you can fight these things through courts, but the courts will side with the majority rule of a corporation. So yes, they can kick you out of their property and request you don't come to public meetings even but there are small details that if overlooked, allow you to ignore their verbal request, you must get it in writing.

  Orders of protection (restraining orders) are not written for corporations, you could however get an injunction if the judge finds your behavior during the public meetings out of line with the expectations the corporation has of others and/or you've gotten a written request and you repeatedly violate it.

  Public meetings, as long as they're called public and/or open to the public cannot be trespassed upon unless they've requested you not to be there anymore in writing or you have a legal injunction from being there.
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  scratchme1010

  ...can they legally do that?
  

  Thanks for sharing about that. Actually, I'm not sure how legal that is since KHs are supposed to be public places and he's not violating any law.