JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

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  • MrRoboto

    After quoting Leviticus 5:1, the article mentions: This command from the Highest Level of authority in the universe put the responsibility upon each Israelite to report to the judges any serious wrongdoing that he observed so that the matter might be handled. While Christians are not strictly under the Mosaic Law, its principles still apply in the Christian congregation. Hence, there may be times when a Christian is obligated to bring a matter to the attention of the elders. True, it is illegal in many countries to disclose to unauthorized ones what is found in private records. But if a Christian feels, after prayerful consideration, that he is facing a situation where the law of God required him to report what he knew despite the demands of lesser authorities, then that is a responsibility he accepts before Jehovah. There are times when a Christian "must obey God as ruler rather than men."

    Lev 5:1 states: “‘If someone sins because he has heard a public call to testify and he is a witness or has seen or learned about it and he does not report it, then he will answer for his error.

    Now I don't know about you, but I don't consider there to have been any public call to testify against the female colleague and frankly the JW guy (the John, in this case) was probably specifically searching for goodies, not just stumbling upon this info/pics. How the *bleep* can you use the scripture above, which is clearly a call for witnesses to a crime, to say that being a tell-all John is a command from the highest level of authority? If someone accused her and asked for anyone with more info to come forward, at least that would make more sense. (but not leave him guiltless for the crimes he committed)

    P.S. also note the double-speak in the WT quote above: "While Christians are not strictly under the Mosaic Law... a Christian "must obey God as ruler rather than men." considering they are talking about Lev 5:1 on both parts here.. wait is it law or not? only when MEN say so, it turns out. So obey these men rather than those men.

    Some sick sick ppl in that org, esp at the top.

  • jp1692

    Apparently this was in either Trinidad and Tobago. Good for the justice system over there!

  • steve2

    Mr Roboto do you know the date of publication of this article? Also, is it in the Watchtower?

  • steve2

    How do JW physicians get on with this requirement? They potentially have access to very detailed private information about JW patients available at their finger tips? I wonder what the compliance rate with telling elders is?

  • MeanMrMustard

    Why were there pictures of this woman's affair on the bank's backup drives?

    I assume it is because the woman has a work PC on the network and the bank backs up all files from all workstations...

    But if that is true, then the elder would have to go into the backup specifically for this woman's machine - not some general search for a cheque register. Doesn't seem right.

    Why do people take pictures of their affairs? And why store these at work of all places?!

    So weird.


  • jp1692

    Here's a link to an article from 2004 about a JW bookkeeper that worked for a doctor and told the elders about a patient that had a STD:

    Dr. Gerald L. Bullock, who practiced medicine in Denison, Texas, in the 1980s, said he was stunned when a bookkeeper at his office released patient information to her church elders.
  • Bill Covert
    Bill Covert

    the Wt article is Sept. 1 1987 "A Time to Speak When" . Look up my posts on this site.

    A researcher Googled the name of the swindler the subject of my posts and this web site popped up. The swindler had to appear before the Judicial committee for swindling another widow out of $100,000, evidently found guilty and is to make restitution of $40.00 a month. He was not disfellowshipped as he was able to show that the court records used against him were derived from this web site. So he got a hundred thousand the widow gets $40.00. If you Google my name Bill Covert there will pop up my name minus the swindlers name. Then the opening sentence of my post on this site, plus a snide reference as to post on JW Survey. All having to do with Lev.5:1 and Wt article "A Time to Speak When".

    You might want to read my posts.

  • DesirousOfChange

    Dr. Gerald L. Bullock, who practiced medicine in Denison, Texas, in the 1980s, said he was stunned when a bookkeeper at his office released patient information to her church elders.

    Any hospital, clinic, or medical office should be concerned about the risk they face with a JW employee who is encouraged to break HIPPA rules if they become aware of a fellow JW's "sin".

  • LongHairGal


    The problem is JWs are not just looking for somebody's "sin". Maybe it's just nosiness about how much money somebody has. They want to know about the financial status of people they know.

    It does no good to count somebody else's money or do an inventory of other people's possessions but Witnesses do this anyway. They are covetous and envious morons.

  • Sorry

    Yeah, it's not your "Christian duty". These people are just using 'Jehovah' as a crutch to control and condemn others, to make themselves look better and feel superior. Why else would they dedicate an entire search to find something on you (because confidential files are not easy to find and don't just accidentally pop up)? The fact their self-righteous is so grandiose that they think this is normal is very alarming and warrants a psych evaluation.

    And they wonder why people leave. Everyone spying on each other and acting like a bunch of damn tattletales. And for what? To gain approval from people who can't wait to do the same to you the second you slip up?

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