Remembering Rutherford

by Sea Breeze 156 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vidiot
    Sea Breeze - "...He seems to me to be the angriest and most ill-tempered of all the WT presidents..."


    In another life, he and Father Coughlin would have been BFFs.

  • HarryS

    He certainly wasn't humble, he was also probably the most hypocritical of the all the leaders of the WTS.

    To make it look like he wasn't intentionally wanting to live in personal luxury, he announced that Beth Sarim was a home for the ancient worthies, I guess they would also like to ride a round in luxury Cadillacs .

    This guy in particular comes off as a corrupt religious charlatan seeking money and power, it was all there for the taking through the Watchtower Corporation.

  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    According to the Bible, many of the Jewish patriarchs and the Jewish/Israelite kings lived in luxury and the OT Bible often portrays such as being an indication of being immensely blessed by Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim/the LORD). If living in luxury as a Christian with one's religion paying the money for such is wrong (and it might be wrong) then many of the teachings (ascribed to God) of the OT Bible are also wrong.

  • HarryS

    What does the bible NT Jesus say about riches and materiel things and those who have a chance being with him in his kingdom ?

    Rutherford put those materiel things ahead of righteous things like adhering honestly to Jesus's instructions for preaching his Kingdom to come.

    He was the quintessential false prophet apostate charlatan of the early 1900's

  • Rivergang
    If living in luxury as a Christian with one's religion paying the money for such is wrong (and it might be wrong) then many of the teachings (ascribed to God) of the OT Bible are also wrong.

    Given that the Old Testament is nothing more than a collection of Middle Eastern fairy tales (and that according to the people who wrote it, the Jews), this is hardly surprising!

  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    How high a percentage of Christians devote themselves to preaching/evangelizing instead of trying to become rich? The reality is that the vast majority of Christians put virtually no effort in spreading Christianity, and instead try to increase their personal wealth and to enjoy their life on Earth.I know because I work with Christians and am surrounded by Christians in my country. A small percentage of Christians, succeed in amassing massive wealth.

    The message of the biblical Christ about pursuing kingdom interests first is in the context of a message of an imminent apocalypse and is suitable for such an apocalyptic message, but it has proven futile for people to be in anxious expectation of the return of a Christ who supposedly first came in the first century CE/AD.The largest churches/denominations of Christianity (such as the Roman Catholic and the bulk of the Presbyterian and Methodist churches [other than perhaps the most theological conservative churches], as well as the Anglican church, the Episcopalian church, and the Unitarian church) long ago gave up in preaching the apocalypse from their pulpits, and they don't go door to door to preach.

    There is no kingdom of Christ (and no supernatural Christ) and there never will be. The Bible is wrong in its teachings of a kingdom of God by Christ. It is better to focus on being happy in one's life on Earth for there is no afterlife. Rutherford, an admitted former atheist for a period of time before learning the message of the Watchtower, acted rationally (even if immorally in certain ways) in trying to get the most enjoyment of his human life on Earth instead of pursuing in a fully biblical NT way a future life in heaven, since there is no personal god (and thus no Jehovah). Perhaps he was a 'closet atheist' while President of the Watch Tower.

  • Disillusioned JW
    Disillusioned JW

    Proverbs 10:22 (NKJV): "The blessing of the LORD makes one rich, And He adds no sorrow with it." See also Deuteronomy 14:26, Ecclesiastes 6:2, Proverbs 3:16, Ecclesiastes 5:19, Genesis 13:2, and Proverbs 10:22. See also Job 1:1-3, 9-10 Job 42:10-12.

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