If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

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  • OnTheWayOut

    Simon, I think our difference came with your words, "There is no reason for them to be unhappy..." Yet I never see it happening that way. Every frigging story about the blood issue ends with someone being unhappy. Otherwise, we are fully on the same page.

    You speak logically about the result and I refer to the emotional aspect of it.

  • TheListener

    For an adult - I would let them know beforehand that if the decision is mine I will allow a blood transfusion. If the decision was out of my hands I probably wouldn't campaign and fight for them to get a transfusion.

    Child - I explained to my wife when I faded that our kids would have whatever medical treatment they needed. Regardless of her wishes. I told her, if the transfusion or medical procedure was successful, that she could curse me silently every time she hugged our living children.

  • ShirleyW

    I ordered blood for my mother, I was appointed her legal Guardian.

    WHat's funny is the day she was hooked up receiving it, some pompous sisters dropped by to visit, of course one reported to the elders and I got a phone call. Let's just say that elders ear was probably burning and ringing a long while after he hung up the phone from what I had to say to him.

  • johnna colins
    johnna colins
    I would and already have honored my father's choice. Several years ago my father had a life threatening heart aneurysm. He needed open heart surgery of couse he wanted bloodless. He calls up after shunning me for 15 yrs and asks me to help him find a Surgeon. I did and also had him recooperate at my house. He did not shun me after that. He is 85 now.
  • rebel8
    On Page 3, the following scenarios are given.

    Happening upon a stranger who just slit his wrists...would you call an ambulance? Yes I would, because I have no context by which to assess his ability to make that decision himself, it is not possible for me to think it through and decide ahead of time, and the situation is emergent so I'd have to rely on professionals. Also, why is the stranger in view of someone who could rescue him, if he doesn't want to be rescued?

    Feeding someone poison is definitely not comparable to not interfering with an adult with free will adhering to a decision made over the course of decades.

    Back to the scenario I mentioned in an earlier post, who's to say by not interfering, I am not saving somebody else's life? These are the same folks who physically abused me, brainwashed me, and allowed me to develop life-threatening hypovolemia. They are out recruiting new victims to this day, specializing on vulnerable people. If we were talking about people who were not evil and were not attempting to recruit more victims into the evil cult, then my course of action may be different. But they are the equivalent of Borg drones. Yes, including the elderly and infirm ones.
  • nicolaou
    Feeding someone poison is definitely not comparable to not interfering with an adult with free will adhering to a decision made over the course of decades.

    Hi rebel. I take it that's a reference to my mushroom analogy? Someone else made the same point so perhaps it's worth me clearing it up a bit. The question I asked was;

    "If your mother wished to eat fatally poisonous mushrooms because some witch doctor said they'd cure her arthritis would you serve them to her?"

    The point I was trying to make was that whether we acted to accommodate a JW's wishes to avoid blood or to serve up poison to a gullible parent we would be taking action that would likely result in harm, even death. What difference does it make whether one is a choice of abstinence while the other is ingestion? In both cases we would be supporting the harmful course of action.

    A secondary point is that neither the Witch Doctor nor the Watchtower are qualified to offer medical advice.

  • LuckyNun
    Yes, I would respect their wishes. Which is more than they'd do for me.
  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    Yes. After all, it's their life and their decision.

    Oh, the 'blood' issue. This is one of the ways I know indoctrination runs so very deep within me: Still would not give nor take blood.

    Perhaps with time that might change.


  • paul from cleveland
    paul from cleveland
    I would respect the wishes of anyone regarding their own body. It's not my place.
  • wallsofjericho


    I'd sign

    Then get df'd for saving someone's life and dubs shunning me for saving their friends life

    Ultimate cognitive dissonance

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