by A Believer 39 Replies latest jw experiences

  • A Believer
    A Believer
    You guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right? I know people who have done exactly this. You have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.
  • tepidpoultry

    Or you live in a small community and can be observed,

    Then you're screwed,


  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Atleast you didn't say I was lieing Tepid.

    It's most likely those who have been shunned sinned or did some kind of terrible act of disrespect to members in their KH so it was warranted.

  • Viviane

    Actually, you can be DF'ed if they think you've broken their rules with zero evidence.

    So, as usual, a JW is telling only the part of the story that doesn't make the JWs look like total assholes.

  • A Believer
    A Believer


  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    @A Believer: You should read the 'secret elder manual' to get a better grip on what they can and cannot DF you for.

    Being raped: Depending on the circumstances leading up to the event or if you waited too long or the elders make a judgment about your mental disposition, you could be DF'ed for being raped (p59)

    Leaving sure can get you disfellowshipped you can get disfellowshipped for: standing away of true worship, falling away, defection, rebellion, abandonment

    Even if you have not associated for many years, elders are still instructed to consider it.

  • krismalone

    Imagine you and your family are kidnapped and being held hostage. The torture and humiliation is an everyday occurence. The kidnapper pulls you aside and tells you that only you can leave and as long that you don't tell anyone, speak out against his evil acts and don't attempt to try to get your family freed will be left alone and allowed to live your life.

    Will you be able to live a peaceful life?

    Is this justice?

    Are his terms really offering you freedom and happiness?

    It's true that anyone could just stop going to the meetings and going door to door spreading the propaganda of the cult. However, they expect you to keep your mouth shut about all their evil deeds such as protecting molesters, false prophecies, lying about the donation arrangement, their abusive history etc etc.(Olin Moyle & Walter Salter letters).

    Even if anyone fades without causing the WT any problems, through their publications and "2 minute hate" meetings (1984 Orwell expression), you are labelled as bad association and a weak Christian that is not to be trusted or to have any association with. So even peaceful faders are targeted by the hate of the cult leaders. Many faders can testify to the fact that although they are not formally disfellowshipped, they are still shunned or discriminated against for not drinking the kool aid on a regular basis.

  • elderINewton

    I take it this poster missed the regional convention part "shun unrepentant wrongdoers"?

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    Krismalone Terrible analogy. The org wants justice done to molesters. Don't judge off a couple of peoples actions the entire org. The failed prophecie that was a unfortunate error, but the org doesn't hide it said that. They mentioned it at an assembly a couple years back. The donation fund isn't a lie, no one has to give money if they don't want to.

    Idk anything about the letters you speak of. But I know their is something about it on JWfacts. A lot of that stuff on that site isn't true, and you shouldn't judge the org as it is today on the past.

  • A Believer
    A Believer

    And if you believe the JW aren't right why not just talk to you're family privately about it. Then let them decide. Win win no disfellowship and you got to tell you're view to whoever you wanted to.

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