Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination

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  • Tahoe
    Tahoe

    https://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses have sued the Dutch State for discrimination, the religious organization informed Trouw. They consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.

    Utrecht University conducted the investigation involved, following publications in Trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the Jehovah’s Witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in January 2020. Utrecht University concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the Jehovah’s Witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. Many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.

    Sander Dekker, then the Minster for Legal Protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the Jehovah’s Witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the Catholic Church did at the time with the Deetman Commission.

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses cooperated in the Utrecht University investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results. The religious organization objects to the researchers’ findings, specifically, the researchers describing them as a “closed community” that makes it more difficult to report sexual abuse to the authorities. According to the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the results “indicate an opinion of the researchers rather than a scientifically substantiated position.” The Jehovah’s Witnesses also said that they experience “adverse consequences” from the investigation in the form of “many allegations.”

    A religious organization suing the state is “fairly unique,” Paul van Sasse van IJsselt, a special professor on law and religion, told Trouw. But he isn’t surprised. The Jehovah’s Witnesses litigate a lot in Europe against government interference and have often been successful in the European Court, he said.

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses did not reveal the precise indictment, so it is hard to predict whether the lawsuit has a chance of success, the professor continued. The fact that they are the only religious community that was investigated does not necessarily mean discrimination. “There may be legitimate grounds for paying special attention to this, such as signals that reports are not being handled properly,” Van Sasse van IJsselt said.

    The trial already happened, and the court will rule on Wednesday, December 13, a spokesperson for the court in The Hague confirmed to Trouw.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    I love the logic: "All those other religions, that we maintain our moral superiority to, were doing it too!"

  • Dagney
    Dagney

    Man they are a piece of work. This is the stuff that makes me just hate the religion. No acknowledgment of the trauma of the protocol they force on the victims...just CYA of the corporation.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    A religious organization suing the state is “fairly unique,” Paul van Sasse van IJsselt, a special professor on law and religion, told Trouw. But he isn’t surprised. The Jehovah’s Witnesses litigate a lot in Europe against government interference and have often been successful in the European Court, he said.

    They litigate a lot everywhere else too. In the USA, they WT won the right to disregard the bible and make their children misfit freaks in front of their peers for not honoring the flag of their respective countries.

    Romans 1

    Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    If your religion intentionally sets its followers up for martyrdom…

    …they’re not genuine martyrs.

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    Vidiot, your comments are spot-on, and very astute. I really enjoy your comments. Oh, and Merry Christmas! 🎄

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    You, too. 😊

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    "Vidiot, your comments are spot-on, and very astute. I really enjoy your comments"

    I like his face.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    So, they lost the case:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/18hej08/judge_state_did_not_discriminate_against_jehovahs/

    Frankly, at this point, I’m kinda surprised the Org even bothered in the first place…

    …they’ve been losing in court so often lately, it feels like “ugh, what’s the point?”

    😒

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    ....from the sound of today's text Dec 13,,, expect the $heeples to follow ""strange instructions"".

    Like selling everything you have,, & give all your money,,wills & estates to the borg.

    If someone has todays text,,,can they please upload it.

    They're talking about it on Reddit,,,it seems pretty creepy cringe.😬

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