"how awful it must be to be dying as an apostate!"

by purrpurr 39 Replies latest jw friends

  • punkofnice
    I'd rather die an apostate than live as a JW.

    My sentiments exactly.

  • NVR2L8

    If I had stayed the "truth" I would have only existed, but now that I have left I'm truly living. How sad it is to hear JWs say the "real life" is still to come while they are wasting the only life there is.

  • stuckinarut2

    So much for death being the way "sin is forgiven" then...

    I see they have now become the decider of who is worthy of divine favour?

    By that reasoning, CT Russel and Rutherford were apostates too! What they taught is so different from "the Truth" of today it is laughable!

    So I guess they had no hope after dying either?

  • prologos

    In the life and death situations I have been in, one in hospital, going in and out of consciousness during a heart attack, being an approved jw or not never entered my mind. How do jws know what it is like not to have, to be free of a false hope?

  • Vidiot
    OneEyedJoe - "I'd rather die an apostate than live as a JW."

    A significant point in my fade was when I realized something similar.

    My wife was inactive, and I could no longer take my kids to the meetings, because they were simply too difficult to handle by myself, and everyone at the KH had suddenly stopped helping out with them. At the time I still - more or less - "believed", but after attending a couple meetings by myself, I felt like I was abandoning my family to save my own sorry ass, and I knew that if something like that actually happened, I'd never be able to look at myself in the mirror again.

    Since I'd already concluded that many non-JWs stood as much of a chance at making it through (and since the WTS had already suggested that not all JWs would, either), it wasn't long before I decided I'd rather stay home with them and take my chances at "Armageddon" than get on the "lifeboat" all by myself.

    And timed with a fortuitous change of address, my fade officially began (although I hadn't really realized it at the time), and ten(ish) years on, here I am.

  • under the radar
    under the radar

    I don't believe in any god, at least as described in the Bible or any other "holy book." IF, and that's a big if, there is life or consciousness after death, I can't believe it is anything like what any religion teaches. We'll all find out eventually. Meanwhile, if I were nearing the point of death, I'm sure I'd be much more comforted by the fact that I had lived my life the best way I knew how, without any pretensions or judging of others who'd made different life decisions, than I would be by the desperate hope that I'd been "good" enough to avoid being tortured for all eternity by some vengeful and petty god.

  • Wayward

    What condescending, holier than thou jerks! I'm one of those who would much much rather die as an apostate than live as a JW. The idea of Paradise never appealed to me anyway. Who wants to eat veggies and wear creepy fake smiles forever?

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    To me it would be better to be at deaths door and to have resolved for oneself that the big picture issues such as what happens after death, are unknown and not for us to know, than to be a JW who is panicked because he knows on some level that the things he's counting on are not provable and are most likely all man made.

  • thehotone4u2

    Umm...Jesus died as an apostate.

    Whatever happened to "having a form of godly devotion but proving false to it's power"!

    According to Matthew 23, Jude, 3rd John, etc., these false prophets identified themselves when they dared to elevate themselves above god with their idiotic judgment calls! What gives them the right to do that? Um...not the bible!

    If there is a paradise, it's not a function of a kangaroo judicial committee to decide who ends up there! Its also not up to them to decide if you're scripturally free, take action in reaction to a rumor, determine who is of the anointed, etc.

  • Worldling9

    I would rather die knowing that I did my best to be kind and tolerant, that I have a loving family, and that my friends are genuine, not fake or conditional.

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