This debate reminds me of those who say that God does not exsist. And on the other hand you have those who say he does.
Honestly , there is no way to prove to OTHERS, what you believe and whatever you believe may not be asbolute truth, or maybe not even close .
I for one will not take the word of anyone, regardless of how educated they may be, or how many years they have studied it, doesnt matter. In the end I have decided in this matter,, there is just not enough real hard and fast truth to say either way. I havent experienced enough in my life to totally believe , and I have not seen or read anything to make me think there is no God.
I just want to keep an open mind about the possibilites of both sides of the story. Maybe in my life time I will find what I believe to be true. Or I can just be stuck in this limbo state of hoovering between the two.
Just a little more info on my grandmother, she was not very educated only went to school a few years and had to get out to pick cotton. She could write her name and a few words, but couldnt read . She didnt watch tv, and lived in the country. She was Catholic and had those beliefs. In my family they were also native american indians, and I think they were very intune with the spirit world, nature things like that.
I don't know if she truly saw what she did, or if it was a dream. But I know one thing my grandmother was not dramatic , and since I was holding her hand as she said these things, I can tell you whatever she saw,,,,,,, she 100% believed it to be true. She even had a glow to her face , even so close to death.
On the issue of my mom coming to me in a dream after she died,,,,,,,, that is first hand experience there. At the time being a JW , it bothered me to have such a real dream about the afterlife. But It was so real , that it always made me doubt that JW's might be wrong on what they were teaching.
Something eles happend that I can't explain. I was still very much JW, and again it was in a dream.
My husband's mom went to help with her dad while he was sick with cancer. He had six months to live.
One night I dreamed , she called and said,......"well , it's over now", and then I dreamed I went back to sleep and she called again and said, wait he is not dead, they thought he was but he is not... I will call back. Then in the dream , she called and said he really is dead now." Well I woke up about 2 am and was upset and asked my husband if the phone rang, he said no...... I told him what I dreamed and what was said, he told me to try and get back to sleep.
A little more than an hour later,,,,,, the phone rang,,,,,,for real this time,,,,,,,no dream...... and my motherinlaw said,,,,,,,,,"well , it's over now", and we told her how sorry we were and we would be on our way. It was word for word what I had dreamt she said...... weird.
Later that week I told my motherin law this dream and I said how she had said he was dead , then he wasnt, then he was.
She said that is how it happened. They declared him dead, but he was actually still alive, and then finally died about 30 minutes or so after the first time they thought he died. He was at home with a hospice nurse.
She , my husband and I were so shocked that I dreamed this exactly how it happened very close to the time that he actually really died.
I have no explanation as to the events of how this happened , I mean the words were the same , just as she said when she called and in my dream. Same tone, it was like a recording .
I have no idea why or how I could dream that, but even as a child , I had dreams that came true. Nothing major just little things, my mother knew about my dreams and I told her things that would happen and sometimes we laughed at how they somehow came true.
She said my daddy's side of the family were crazy Catholics and probably were into" that backwoods swamp voodoo" ,,,,,and that I was probably a little witch......... of course she was joking and we laughed about it all.
But to this day I can't say even with the things I have seen and heard, how , why or where this comes froms, if anywhere.........shrugssssss.. who knows!!!!!!!