Would You Now Feel Uncomfortable Taking Blood?

by minimus 54 Replies latest jw friends

  • DJ
    DJ

    Hi all,

    Some of you may already know this but I'll briefly write about it again for those who don't. Ok..In 1996, my husband who was age 32 at the time was on his way home from work and he was in an accident. He was thrown 200 ft. through the air and landed in the middle of the highway. It was dark and tractor trailers flew right by him. Finally a woman (unknown) stopped and turned her car to block the road and called 911. My husband made it to the hospital very quickly because it was only 1/2 mile away. He had many broken bones and severe internal bleeding. The trauma team had him in the OR all night until 7am the following morning. I was pregnant with our 2nd child at the time and we were in the process of moving to a larger home. The surgeon's gave me a poor prognosis because they could not locate the source of the internal bleeding and he bled throughout the surgery. He still needed several more operations but it was crucial to stop the internal bleeding first. Twenty four hours later they managed to locate the bleed and it was a very delicate surgery to stop it. He had 23 red cell transfusions! He was strong enough to have the other operations to save his foot from amputation and to repair various other injuries. I am thrilled to report that he is alive and well! I gave birth to our son a few months later and he was a healthy gorgeous little baby. He is now 5yrs. old and loves his daddy with all of his heart. Our daughter who is 11 remembers this horror and she is glad that we learned what loving mercy was! We were shunned by my family but my husband is alive! Thank you Jesus!

    Love, Dj

  • Jesus Christ
    Jesus Christ

    You mean would I be uncomfortable with doing something to save my life even though some crazy cult people think doing something like that is bad based on their warped interpretation of a book that makes no sense? No, I wouldn't hesitate to do it at all.

    As for family members, I'd probably sign and let them have a transfusion. So they don't like it. At least they'd be alive to hate me.

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    DJ

    Awesome story. Wow, I got goosebumps reading it. Thank God (and I mean that literally) he's survived.

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    I'm with Beck Melbourne on this one. I wouldn't have any religious scruples about taking it, but I do consider it dangerous and believe that doctors are too quick to prescribe it. I have promised to honor my JW wife's desires not to receive blood, no matter what.

  • freedom96
    freedom96

    I would in a heartbeat. Life or death? Duh!

    I would have back in the witness days too.

  • ignored_one
    ignored_one

    This is sorta on the subject.

    But recently I found out the truth regarding what happended to an elder's daughter from my old cong when she went into hospital. This was about 2-3 years ago I think.

    Well, she had a blood transfusion but it was said that it was a forced one. Of course I just found out that it wasn't forced at all, in fact the elder father had wanted one for her. The sick thing is that nothing was done about it even though she was baptized.

    It was the usual one rule for elders and another for the rank and file.

    Just thought I'd let you all know. Although I imagine you guys all know similar examples.

    Ignored One.

  • SpannerintheWorks
    SpannerintheWorks
    would you feel, even a little bit uncomfortable agreeing to take a blood transfusion

    Nope, I'd feel a lot more uncomfortable bleeding to death.

  • Francois
    Francois

    I received three units of whole blood following a, um, notable FUBAR on my part back in '98. Didn't give it a second thought. The "policy" (which is what it is - an interpretation) is either right or it's wrong. The WTBTS is wrong, wrong, wrong.

    francois

  • pomegranate
    pomegranate

    The majority of the time, taking blood is good and has beneficial results. Sometimes there are complications, just like any and ALL MEDICAL PROCEDURES.

    More people die from medical error ie given wrong meds and such, than die from a problematic blood transfusion...

    Blood/Life good. Contradictory Watchtower doctrine bad.

  • Scully
    Scully

    Lisa BObeesa:

    Here's the most current WT offerings on the subject of artificial insemination. It's from 1993.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=23587&site=3

    *** g93 3/8 26-7 Surrogate Motherhood-Is It for Christians? ***

    The Bible's Viewpoint
    Surrogate Motherhood-Is It for Christians?

    THE ancient Roman poet Horace knew nothing of surrogate motherhood when he wrote: "It is of no consequence of what parents a man is born, so he be a man of merit." The 17th-century French writer's maxim, "Birth is nothing where virtue is not," was also penned long before the concept of surrogate birth became a legal quagmire. But, as Mary Thom reported in Ms. magazine, with new reproductive technology, "the functions of producer of the egg, incubator of the fetus-becoming-baby, and caretaker of the baby once born" may be divided among two or three "mothers." The question of "virtue" and "consequence" has become both ambiguous and complex.

    The practice of using surrogate mothers burst onto the world scene during the mid-1970's, raising social, moral, and legal problems not faced before. Some infertile couples were eager to take advantage of this nontraditional mode of reproduction. On the other hand, doctors, lawyers, and legislators have struggled to keep up with the expanding fertility technology in an effort to set guidelines that address the ethical and moral questions raised.

    What Is Surrogate Motherhood?
    Surrogate, or contract, motherhood is having an artificially inseminated woman bear a child for another woman. So-called traditional surrogacy occurs when the surrogate mother is impregnated through artificial insemination with the sperm of the husband from the couple who have contracted with her. The surrogate is thus the genetic mother of the baby. Gestational surrogacy means that the wife's egg and the husband's sperm are united outside the womb in a process known as in-vitro (test-tube) fertilization, and the resulting embryo is placed in the surrogate's uterus for gestation.

    Why the rise in surrogate motherhood? For one thing, high-tech science has discovered several ways to help women have babies. Couples may desperately want a child, yet because of infertility, inconvenience, or too few healthy babies for adoption, they cannot have one. So they rent another person's body to have a baby. Since large sums of money are involved, surrogacy has been described in unflattering terms, such as "involuntary servitude and slavery" and "strip-mining the fertility of the poor."

    In the United States, the New Jersey Supreme Court recognized the potential for the rich to exploit the poor and in a surrogacy case stated: "There are, in short, values that society deems more important than granting to wealth whatever it can buy, be it labor, love, or life." The Supreme Court of France stated that surrogate motherhood violates a woman's body and that "the human body is not lent out, is not rented out, is not sold."

    Problems With Surrogacy
    Surrogacy brings a number of problems. One is the potential for ugly legal battles if the woman who gives birth wants to keep the baby. Whose baby is it, the woman who gives birth or the woman who provides the egg? So the birth of a child, usually a time of joy, sometimes leads to a courtroom battle. Another problem: Some women who agree to become surrogate mothers find their feelings changing with the development and birth of the contracted child. The contract laid out some months earlier becomes harder and harder to accept. A powerful bonding relationship is being formed between the mother and the baby inside her. One surrogate mother, not anticipating this bonding, explains her feelings about giving up the baby: "It was as if somebody had died. My body was crying out for my daughter."

    Also, what long-term effects might such a birth have on the surrogate's other children, the family that accepts the baby, and the child itself? Or what will happen if a child born by a surrogate mother has a birth defect? Is the father obliged to take the baby? If not, who pays for the child's support? And an even more important question, What is God's view of surrogate motherhood?

    Does Surrogate Motherhood Honor Marriage?
    God's Word tells us that he looks upon marriage as something sacred. For example, Hebrews 13:4 states: "Let marriage be honorable among all, and the marriage bed be without defilement, for God will judge fornicators and adulterers." God expects all Christians to consider marriage honorable and to keep it that way. What defiles marriage? Fornication, which can dishonor marriage in advance, and adultery, which dishonors marriage after it has been entered into.

    Does surrogate motherhood honor marriage and keep the marriage bed undefiled? Simply put, no. Traditional surrogacy requires the insemination of the woman by donor sperm. The Bible's view may be found at Leviticus 18:20, which says: "You must not give your emission as semen to the wife of your associate to become unclean by it." There is no Biblical basis for making a distinction between insemination by intercourse and insemination artificially by donor implantation. Therefore, in either case, fornication or adultery is committed when insemination is accomplished by a male other than the woman's legal husband.

    What about gestational surrogacy? This too defiles the marriage bed. True, the fertilized egg would be a union of the husband and his wife, but it is thereafter placed in the womb of another woman and, in fact, makes her pregnant. This pregnancy is not the result of sexual relations between the surrogate woman and her own husband. Thus, her reproductive organs are now being used by someone other than her own mate. This is inconsistent with the Bible's moral principles that a woman bear a child for her own husband. (Compare Deuteronomy 23:2.) It would not be proper for a man other than the surrogate's own husband to make use of her reproductive organs. It is an improper use of the marriage bed. Thus, surrogate motherhood is not for Christians.
    [Footnotes]
    The reference work New Testament Word Studies shows that "the marriage bed" of Hebrews 13:4 means that not only the state but also the use of marriage should not be defiled.
    [Picture Credit Line on page 26]
    Pastel by Mary Cassatt, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Gift of Mrs. Ralph J. Hines, 1960. (60.181)

    So there you have it. Two or three brief sentences that reinforce the archaic idea that women are the property and chattel of men, and are not supposed to do anything that even remotely appears that she has the ability and right to make decisions about her own body.

    Isn't it strange the "loving provision" of Levirite marriages. where a barren widow could bear children for her dead husband (to carry on HIS name) by being inseminated by his brother. It's ALL about the male, isn't it?

    Fornication, which can dishonor marriage in advance, and adultery, which dishonors marriage after it has been entered into.

    Does surrogate motherhood honor marriage and keep the marriage bed undefiled? Simply put, no. Traditional surrogacy requires the insemination of the woman by donor sperm. The Bible's view may be found at Leviticus 18:20, which says: "You must not give your emission as semen to the wife of your associate to become unclean by it." There is no Biblical basis for making a distinction between insemination by intercourse and insemination artificially by donor implantation. Therefore, in either case, fornication or adultery is committed when insemination is accomplished by a male other than the woman's legal husband.

    I still like following through on the WTS's logic regarding blood transfusions: if you receive a transfusion against your will, it's like being raped; if you receive a transfusion willingly, it's like committing fornication or adultery. Bad news for your average JW, right??

    But it's OK to take minor blood fractions (like Rhogam/Winrho, clotting factors, etc.) that come from LARGE POOLS of donated blood. Isn't that like participating in an orgy if you follow WT logic?? And now, what about Hemopure/Biopure, the hemoglobin extract that comes from COW's blood?? Isn't that like committing bestiality, according to the WT analogy?? But that's OK too???

    Love, Scully

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