My evening at the pub - how many ex-JW's do you think there are?
Ditto, Stuck, I have found that with many people I talk with say they have friends or relatives who were once JW's, occasionally an active JW is mentioned.
I was in a shop a while ago looking for a present for an old JW friends Anniversary, the only normal thing left I can do for this person, and the Lady who ran the shop asked was it a birthday present, so I explained, she then said "I used to go to the Kingdom Hall", it turns out she went for a few years with her Mom until in her teens when she stopped,and her Mom left soon after.
So many that tell of Ex-witnesses ! I wonder if the estimate above is too small ! and I ask again,how come those people woke up, long before Old Thicko me ?
I take your point too, if it were the "truth" surely these relatives and others would have accepted it, thus making todays claimed mebership much higher,and those millions should only be thousands that left.
Balaam....those 2/3 is about children raised as JW's ...a lot of those kids probably never were baptized. But in a way one can say that they are XJVs.
JW facts shows that only about 39% of people who are DFd ever get reinstated. So the majority who leave/get kicked out end up staying out.
More EX-JW's than current JW's.....sounds good to me!
I was never baptized, my parents are deceased, so hence I am untouchable. F*ck you, WatchTurd Cult.
- Wing Commander
and I ask again,how come those people woke up, long before Old Thicko me ?
Don't assume they did! As you know, lots of people stop attending out of apathy or discouragement and end up getting roped back in when they're caught by a JW at a vulnerable time. Those of us who actually did our research when leaving are the only ones who definitely left for good.
Robert said: there are too many who have not overcome the WTBTS's mind manipulation and still feel that the WTBTS does have the "Truth" and/or are still adversely affected by the WTBTS's mind manipulation.
EXACTLY! This is the claim that my elderette made, when I was asking her why Ex-JW's were wrong for leaving. "ALL of the people that I know, who have either left The Truth, or been disfellowshipped... ALL of them say the same thing! They KNOW the JW's have the TRUTH. They just don't want to obey."
I'm sure she has put me into this category also: disobedient and unwilling to submit to Jehovah's Organization. My first question to her, being that they had no evidence that the FDS had been appointed to rule over the lives of millions of JW's worldwide.
I'm sure there are millions of disobedient ones in the world today. That is one of the main reasons they have to ramp up their warnings about associating with non-believers. Don't be drawn away from "Jehovah!"
Many just feel unworthy and are waiting for their death at judgment day. I spent half my life as a walking dead person.
I think Raymond Franz said in one of his books that about one third of JW's leave the organization.