Thanks. I copied your post as a text document so I can record all the good points later. I learned a few things. I saw a number of good points that I want to add to my reasoning arsenal.
Witnesses are so smug. They think they have all the answers and the rest of the world is clueless and just waiting to be enlightened by them. I love to hear of them encountering people like you.
the context in Genesis suggest the primary meaning of the word was intended. The creative days were described as having a morning and evening. The bible uses the word 'yom' about 30 times in conjunction with the words 'morning' and 'evening' and in every instance a literal 24-hour day was being described. The days in the Genesis were also numbered, you know, 'the first day', 'the second day'. Every other time the bible designates a day with a number it is a literal day being referred to. Since it is you claiming 'yohm' should not be interpreted by its primary meaning, the burden of proof is on you to support your claim'
Never thought about that.
'we have to rely on human reasoning because it is all we have. You claim that you put your trust in God's word not mans but there are many books and religions that claim knowledge about God. It is only human reasoning that enables us to separate those claims into what is true and what is not. If you don't trust human reasoning then how can you trust your own discernment that the God you believe in is the truth? The only way to establish truth is human reasoning because its all we have, no matter how imperfect it might be. Anything else is blind faith'.
Excellent! So it is precisely human reasoning that enables us to determine whether we believe in God, whether we believe in evolution, etc. It is human reasoning that is appealed to when JWs study the Bible Teach book with potential recruits. It is human reasoning that enables individuals to choose between JWs, Baptiists, Catholics, or athiests. How can they say they don’t trust human reasoning???
'how do you know that science is right, science has been wrong in the past, the Bible has proven to be more reliable than science'
Wow, can’t believe they said that. The Bible has proven to be more reliable than science… really??? Science can predict very precisely when astronomical events will occur. Science allows for guiding space vehicles to heavenly bodies with precision – knowing precisely where they will land and when. Science allows us to know exactly how medicines we take work in the body – down to what individual electrons in atoms are doing, exactly how much heat is given off in any chemical reactions of those medicines, what the byproducts are, how they will be eliminated, etc.
However, take me, for example. I have based my entire adult life on so-called Bible predictions of events that were supposed to occur – events that were supposed to drastically alter my life. Those events did not occur and I have been left working a low-paying stressful job with no future in it. I have absolutely no retirement prospects – no pension, no 401K, no investments, etc. So much for the reliability of the Bible (at least JW interpretation of it). And even if the end comes tomorrow, they were still wrong. It did not come when they said it would.
Liked the point about the Babylonians’ believing the earth was a flat disc. I now realize that things that were simple to me as a JW are not so simple.