Path of Thorns started it:
I am really at a loss to understand your intentions. It seems that the WT made several clear statements that were very positive in this letter and yet you continue to criticize them. It makes little sense to push for change and then when it happens, to harp on the WT for making changes. Why not just be clear that no matter what changes are made you will always be angry over past policies and therefore the WT can never satisfy your demands. The past cannot be changed.<
This is April 27, 2002. This now for SIX MONTHS evidence has been presented on this board that not only has there been no policy change by Watchtower regarding pedophiles, but in fact the treatment of the victims and supporters of the victims has been degenerating and I believe it will get worse. Very soon now I beleive, we are going to be getting another tidal wave of jw's and ex-jw's with more horror stories. I hope I am wrong. I'm afraid I am going to be right.
Why, for six straight months, and especially since February, does pathofthorns continually say that Watchtower policy has changed when there is not one shred of evidence of any change except for the worse? April 27th was only yesterday, OKAY!!!!
>I believe the Society's stating clearly they will not discourage victims of abuse from going to the authorities was a significant step. This puts the decision solely in the victim's hands to decide what they would like to do. <
This statement, made yesterday, is in clear contraevidence of six months of evidence, both Watchtower publications and eyewitness testimony here on this board. This is AFTER the May 15th Watchtower where disagreeing with the elders (such as elders refusing to disfellowship a perpetraor and/or disfellowshiping the victim)will result in shunning without even a judicial hearing.
I was horrified to read this. This si beyond expression of personal opinion. This is the last of more than one thread that POT has charged around on with these statements.
I would like to see the evidence of these so-called 'changes' in policy. That's all I'm asking. The BOE letter is crap, no change; and in any case it is totally controverted byt he May 15th Watchtower, which applies to ALL JW's not even just to elders, to make things worse.
This make the statement of pathofthorns especially hilarious:
>In the former JW community there are many with good intentions but often find themselves making inaccurate or unrestrained, poorly worded or overly sensational comments.
These sorts of comments set the former Witness community back and sometimes give credence to the labels placed upon us. On the other hand, well worded, accurate statements made with a knowlege of how the WT PR machine works can effectively tie their hands and force the WT to make changes.<
I especially like this:
>I have a vague recollection of elders who voluntarily took a break from their positions due to health matters or to take care of family situations.
In some of these cases it was possible for them to have some sort of understanding with the congregation that they would still be respected as elders but without the title and less assignments.
I realize this subject is somewhat stupid, but I have my reasons for asking and if anyone has sound information regarding situations where an elder can take advantage of something like this and how one would go about it, it would be appreciated.<
I can well imagine you have your reasons, POT. I can well imagine.