jgnat:
Where are the pics for the years before to compare. Given the Arctic in 2003 is pretty all covered in ice, does that mean global warming didnt exist before then or perhaps had no affect on that part of the world ?
Recent Global Cooling Controversy
by metatron 236 Replies latest jw friends
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besty
@mP
Really, here we have a fact, and yet no government is doing anything real to solve this problem ?
Plenty of governments are taking numerous significant 'real' actions. Just for example look at the renewable energy achievements made by these countries:
Albania (100% hydro in 2008).
Angola (96.45% hydro in 2008)
Austria (73.86% renewable in 2009, 12.5% of that non hydro)
Belize (90.91% hydro in 2008)
Bhutan (99.86% hydro in 2008)
Brazil (88.88% renewable with 4.93 non hydro in 2009)
Burundi (100% hydro in 2008)
Cameroon (77.31% hydro in 2008)
Canada (61.95% renewable, with 1.86% non hydro in 2009)
Central African Republic (81.25% renewable in 2008)
Columbia (85.67% hydro in 2008)
Congo (82.22% renewable in 2008)
Costa Rica (93.11% renewable in 2008)
DPR Korea (61.86% hydro in 2008)
DR Congo (99.46% hydro in 2008)
Ecuador (64.12% renewable in 2008, with 2.21% non hydro)
El Salvador (62.24% renewable in 2008, with 26.92 non hydro)
Ethiopia (88.17% renewable in 2008, with 0.27% non hydro)
Fiji (68.04% renewable in 2008)
Georgia (85.52% hydro in 2008)
Ghana (75.03% hydro in 2008)
Guatemala (61.31% renewable, with 17.5 non hydro in 2008)
Iceland (100% renewable, with 26.27% geothermal in 2009).
Kenya (62.59% renewable, with 21.06% non hydro in 2008)
Kyrgyzstan (90.85% hydro in 2008)
Lao PDR (92.46% hydro in 2008)
Latvia (62.23% renewable with 1.96% non hydro in 2008)
Lesotho (100% hydro in 2008)
Madagascar (66.67% hydro in 2008)
Malawi (86.31% hydro in 2008)
Mozambique (99.87% hydro in 2008)
Myanmar (62.05% hydro in 2008)
Namibia (70.91% hydro in 2008)
Nepal (99.67% hydro in 2008)
New Zealand (72.52% renewable, including 15.42% non hydro in 2009)
Norway (97.11% renewable, including 0.93% non hydro in 2009)
Paraguay (100.00% hydro in 2008)
Peru (60.53% renewable, including 1.47% non hydro in 2008)
Sweden (60.42% renewable, including 10.58% non hydro in 2009)
Tajikistan (98.25% hydro in 2008)
Tanzania (61.45% hydro in 2008)
Uganda (74.77% hydro in 2008)
Uruguay (61.98% renewable, with 9.33 non hydro in 2008)
Venezuela (69.57% hydro in 2008)
Zambia (99.69% hydro in 2008)
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besty
@mP
Given the Arctic in 2003 is pretty all covered in ice, does that mean global warming didnt exist before then or perhaps had no affect on that part of the world ?
Given that you seem to be a lazy moron, why not do some basic reading before asking any more questions:
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Jeffro
mP:
But the fact you have to goto Europe and cant find anything proves that the Australian government is doing absolutely nothing significant.
That's because we have people like Tony Abbott and Alan Jones (and mP) claiming there's no need. Once Australia got away from Howard, Rudd ratified the Kyoto protocol and at least took some environmentally favourable steps - which Abbot tried to block.
All the big polutting things continue just like before.
Largely because too many American corporations (the biggest polluters) are greedy bastards. And in Australia we have naive conservatives who voted for Tony Abbott, whose view is that, "The argument [about climate change] is absolute crap. However, the politics of this are tough for us. Eighty per cent of people believe climate change is a real and present danger."
Firstly you failed to mention that Ger after the nuclear accidents has been looking for new energy forms. It also had problems with gas supplies from Russia and so on. In the end solar or wind etc may very well be the best way to source much of their energy rather than having dependencies on others that may be perceived as unreliable and so on.
That's a stupid response. Your statement about Germany contradicts your own view, because Germany opted for clean energy forms when it went looking for alternatives to clean (when properly functioning) but risky nuclear power, rather than just burning as much coal as they can find. (Though Germany had previously relied a lot on coal, its three remaining coal mines will be shut down by 2018.) And you conveniently ignored what I said about Sweden. And besty has provided a long list of countries doing quite a lot about alternative energy sources that do not contribute to manmade climate change.
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jgnat
mP, no doubt you are aware that the global temperature varies widely but really needs to be compared over millenia, not years. We are in the middle of a larger cooling trend, but we are warming up anyways. We've only been able to reliably measure the polar ice pack since 1979 and the advent of satellites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_of_sea_ice
Edited to add this: http://www.planetseed.com/sciencearticle/global-climate-change-and-energy
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Jeffro
The new Prime Minister in Australia (voted in by conservatives and naive victims of the biased media) is a climate change denier. So we won't be expecting any great environmental improvements in Australian policy any time soon.
From the mouth of Tony Abbott:
We can’t conclusively say whether man-made carbon dioxide emissions are contributing to climate change.
I am, as you know, hugely unconvinced by the so-called settled science on climate change.
It seems that, notwithstanding the dramatic increases in manmade CO2 emissions over the last decade, the world's warming has stopped.
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besty
its ironic given that earlier this year Australia had to add a new colour to the heat map to reflect temperatures in excess of 50C
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brinjen
Pretty ironic indeed besty. But then again, thinking has never been Abbott's best asset.
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besty
the UK has its own share of right wing loonies with similar climate change denial policies - fortunately they are not likely to get into government and the Daily Fail is only read by the lower orders :-)
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Jeffro
brinjen:
Pretty ironic indeed besty. But then again, thinking has never been Abbott's best asset.
Shouldn't you be ironing or something?
Tony Abbott:
What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up.
I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons.
While I think men and women are equal, they are also different and I think it's inevitable and I don't think it's a bad thing at all that we always have, say, more women doing things like physiotherapy and an enormous number of women simply doing housework.
