Said COMF: "I don't believe in the biblical god, but I think there's too much order and complexity for it to have originated and grown to what we now see through a series of chance occurrences. I allow for the possibility of some form of higher intelligence. If it exists, though, I don't imagine it to be particularly benevolent, given the nature of life (eat other living things, or die).
"I've given up hope of ever knowing the answers, and contented myself with living a full, rewarding life while I'm alive. If it turns out there's life after death, kewl. If not, my present life won't have been spent waiting for the ever-not-present tomorrow."
Yeah, I basically fall under "just Atheist" instead of "hardcore Atheist." Could there be a God or some Force? Sure -- but there's no proof that there is. All evidence is subjective. You have to want to believe in God in order do so, and that throws objectivity straight out of the window! That's all that faith is: looking at that which cannot be true, or at that of which there is no evidence, and convincing yourself of it. If you didn't have to do this, why would faith be needed 'to believe'? If the facts can't stand on their own -- if they are too miraculous for common sense -- then they are not facts.
Quoth Lark: "I am checking in as an agnostic. I don't know and I dont't care. Whatever happens, happens."
Again, I'm with you on this. I'm not going to play these ridiculous games and engage in meaningless, superstitious ceremonies and ________.
Said Truthseeker1: "If i believe in a god, it is an impersonal abstract force that started it all, and if we choose to call that god, then hey, I believe in god. I once read it as "first push" or something.
I agree with this. There might have been something -- a stimulus, if you will -- but I don't buy into the fact that it's worthy of worship just because it (indirectly) created us. Are cloned people going to be made to worship the doctors that created them?
Ashitaka said: "Don't see too much on this beautiful/horrible planet that points to a guy who makes pillars of flame and such."
It just sounds
like an ancient myth -- all of it: creation, the flood, pillars of fire from the sky. And we're supposed to accept this crap on what solid grounds? None!
Garybuss: "Pointless is hopeless is dreamless is not very enjoyable."
Let me elaborate: I believe that we weren't created for some purpose. (Created to obey God, says the Society? Come on!
I was never pleased with that.) We just happened. In that sense, there is no exact purpose to life. But that doesn't mean that life is purposeless. We have a responsibility to our intellect to learn, to explore, to be individually happy, and to be an asset to society. Beyond that, we have very little.
In the end, I only believe in facts. I make a point not to say that I believe in science because scientists (not science) are fallible. But there are certain things that are concrete facts -- e.g. water freezes at 32.F/0.C. This is known and proven. There's no proof of God; there're just ideas, theories, hopes, and speculation. (And no Lionel Hutzes here: "Those are kinds of evidence.")