The founder of this institution is a philosopher and a Catholic. His book taught me a great deal about independence and the qualities of a healthy group.
Another Cardinal Falls
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cofty
When posters suggest that the entire religion should be trashed, and Islam besides, I think we are starting to tread in to the territory of intolerance. - jgnat
Please stop putting words in my mouth jgnat, judge me on what I actually said...
The RCC is a cesspit and its only going to get worse
The RCC is thoroughly rotten to its core.
There are also many wonderful people in the Watchtower, in Scientology, in the Church of LDS, in Islam. They are all despicable organisations.
The problem is not just with individuals it is with the structure of authority that makes abuse and the cover up up of abuse possible.
The responsibility for the scandal goes to the very top.
Core teachings of the RCC are oppressive.
Islam is united in its oppression of women and homosexuals.
The world would be a better place if the RCC went out of business tomorrow.
Just as is the case in the Watchtower it is about control.
I stand by all of the above.
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Hortensia
yeah, I agree with cofty.
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designs
Cardinals Mahoney and O'Brien are not off the hook yet with the public and the civil authorities.
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designs
To get into the mindset of these Cardinals, here is another comment from fellow Cardinal Levada, former head of the San Francisco Archdiocese and now connected to a Seminary on why Cardinal Mahoney (who transferred child molesting priests from parish to parish rather than turn them in for criminal felony acts) should be at the Conclave to vote in the next Pope- 'For some victims groups enough is never enough' 'He (Mahoney) has apologized for errors in judgement' 'I believe he should be at the Conclave'.
You think Splane and Morris are thick as a brick.....
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jgnat
The world would not be a better place if the RCC went out of business tomorrow. We're talking major social disruption, and I'm not a fan of that. It needs serious reform.
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caliber
The world would be a better place if the RCC went out of business tomorrow. ~~ cofty
Where is Jgnat wrong in the assumption made below ? Please help me see the distinction
Is wishing or suggesting is somehow different ?
Is going out of business.. implosion ( A violent collapse inward ) (passive wish ) ?
trashing ( Something broken off or removed to be discarded ) (action taken) ?
When posters suggest that the entire religion should be trashed ~~Jgnat
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Realistically these religions will be with us for longer than we would wish. A hospital, shelter, orphanage, food bank are important features in a community and if a Church runs them well and with care many people can get relief from suffering. If there is the constant danger of abuse then the community needs to be involved in oversite, possibly changing ownership, and bringing abusers to justice.
This particluar religion though has a history unlike anyother. We see out Witness friends waking up and making decisions to leave and start a new life, we can hope that millions of Catholics follow a similar path. Being faced with the cold facts of abuse being part of the Leadership within the 117 Cardinals is bound to wake up many more.
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Lozhasleft
Earlier I watched The Magdalene Sisters, it was heartbreaking and indefensible. What people do in the name of religion just makes me weep.
Loz x
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Glander
suggested thread title.