Dear Cofty, Please, an example of these oppressive core catholic teachings if you may.
The ban on contraception that is inextricably linked to poverty in the developing world and contributes to the spread of Aids.
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cofty
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PSacramento
The RCC is in serious need of a Vatican 3 council.
There are MANy changes needed and serious reforms.
If the RCC does not address these issues ASAP, things will only get worse for them and those that belong to that organization, on ALL levels.
This is not a persecuation thing or a conspiracy thing, there are REAL issues that they MUST address right NOW.
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jgnat
I would not call the ban on contraception a core Catholic teaching, but a current doctrine and subject to change. The core teaching is likely around "sanctity of life".
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cofty
jgnat - There is something very wrong with an organisation when a movement is necessary to promote the basic rights of 50% of its members.
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PSacramento
COntraception as per the Catechism:
2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. 158 These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil: 159
- Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality. 160
2371 "Let all be convinced that human life and the duty of transmitting it are not limited by the horizons of this life only: their true evaluation and full significance can be understood only in reference to man's eternal destiny." 161
2372 The state has a responsibility for its citizens' well-being. In this capacity it is legitimate for it to intervene to orient the demography of the population. This can be done by means of objective and respectful information, but certainly not by authoritarian, coercive measures. The state may not legitimately usurp the initiative of spouses, who have the primary responsibility for the procreation and education of their children. 162 In this area, it is not authorized to employ means contrary to the moral law.
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cofty
I would not call the ban on contraception a core Catholic teaching
This is semantics. It a rule of an authoritarian religion that has contributed massively to suffering, disease and premature death.
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PSacramento
This is semantics. It a rule of an authoritarian religion that has contributed massively to suffering, disease and premature death.
I agree, that said the CORE teaching of Christianity, which is sexual relations ONLY in a monogamous commited relationship, is a far better method than ANY contraception to stave off STD's.
How realistic that is inour day and age is different matter of course.
I am of the opinion that the RCC shoudl leave the method of contraception up to the individuals.
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jgnat
Cofty, there is something wrong with a society that demands this, but that is what we have. For better or worse, religions attract those who resist change, and these religions serve the needs of their membership by defending "traditional values". Some of those "values" have to die, die, die. But we can't toss out 53% of the world's religious adherents because they are resisting necessary change. There's something that these organizations offer.
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slimboyfat
Smarmy, lying, hypocritical, bastard. He's been publically calling homosexuals in consensual loving relationships "unnatural" for decades, like it was his special and most important message to the world, and it turns out he actually used his position to force himself on other male priests? What a first class tosser. I wish the media would stop giving these religious leaders a platform to spout their twisted views in the first place.
