Someone who translates and gives connotation to Greek words should have an advanced degree in Greek or cite to a standard, reconigzed reference work.
Or maybe just know how to read... and use... a Greek lexicon. Or, wait... maybe you mean like, say, Fred Franz.
After the WTBTS. always ask hard questions. Demand proof. Beware people who speak with authority.
Yes! Like THIS:
B/c of my Witness experience, I have studied academic work on the New Testament, Christology, mysticism, and church history. I studied under Elaine Pagels at Columbia University. I can assure you one thing from my studies which I have continued, altho my profession is in a different field.
And so, because of this YOU are an "authority," so... folks you ask YOU. Right? I mean, that's what it looks like you're saying to ME: "Beware of people who speak with authority... I am an authority... and here's why I am and so speak with authority"... Now, since MY itty bitty brain was able to "hear" what you said... I am SURE those of the more... mmmmm... "intelligent"... among us "heard" you, too.
Oh, but wait... that's not what you MEANT, was it? No? So, okay, go ahead... tell us what you MEANT ("Well, see, I didn't mean, I mean, what I meant... see, it was like... well, what it was, was..."). Ch'eah... right.
There is such a vast body of knowledge that I know very little.
Well, FINALLY! Some TRUTH from one'a ya'll!! OH... most HAPPY... day! Perhaps what was once lost CAN be found! There is hope for you, yet!
When someone states a certain propostion, look for external validation.
Like all of your credentials? You know, like the ones you've said you "refuse" to share on here... but keep throwing about as if folks should just take your word for granted? THOSE propositions? Look, girl: I trust you. I believe you went the schools you say did, read the books you say you have, studied under whoever you say you studied. It can be a bit confusing when you say one thing as to your faith one day/thread, then what seems to be completely another on another day/thread. But I get that: that is how religions (and those who study about/teach them) TEACH you to be with faith - THEY don't know what it is... so they can't really teach YOU what it is... so, you don't REALLY know "what" it is... OR "what" you believe. Heck, what TO believe.
But I don't have that dilemma... because I didn't receive my faith in or belief as to God and Christ... FROM religion. Or from those who study/teach it. I received it directly from God, through Christ. As Peter did ("Flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my FATHER, who is in the heavens did!"). Now, I don't begrudge you YOUR ignorance. Why, though, do you begrudge me what you believe to be mine? Believe what you believe, girl... and more power to you. But quit trying to "come at" me as you do. Because YOU know you can't take it when I respond.
Does it makes sense to you at a gut level?
Good question... and everyone SHOULD ask themselves; however, that it doesn't doesn't make it untrue... does it? Human evolution (from lower life forms) doesn't make sense to ME at MY gut level... or to MANY at theirs. Yet, there are those who are ADAMANT that it's true. So..
People here claim personal revelation. I can't dispute personal revelation.
Yet, you keep trying to do so. Another show of your own confusion. Yet, you point the finger away from yourself.
It is highly unlikely but faith is not very rational.
Faith does not require something to be LIKELY. I mean, what is the LIKELIHOOD that a man is put to death, only to raise himself up FROM that death... because of the authority given him to do so? Yet, I bet YOU celebrate "Good Friday"... as well as "Easter." If so... WHY? Because a bunch of other folks do? A bunch of other folks pray toward the east 5 times a day, too. And another bunch of folks don't eat beef. And another bunch of folks...
The problem is the arrogant statements that are so similar to the WT.
You mean like: "I have studied academic work on the New Testament, Christology, mysticism, and church history." Wasn't that similar to the "credentials" that caused people to ooh and ahh over Frederick Franz? Student of Theology (and so, most probably the NT, Christology, and church history; though, probably not mysticism, but who knows?). Rhodes Scholar candidate... turned down Oxfored... etc.? The world in not only FULL of people who've studied such things... but schools and seminaries and "Gileads" started by them. So... what?
Ask questions, do your own research. Despite the academic and recreational study, I found the most positive input for me was that, if I accep the Bible is unique, sitting with the Bible and reading it myself. We don't cherish our gut instincts enough.
By ALL means: DO research. DO ask questions. Just not of MAN... including you OR me. Because MAN can't answer them. Goodness, why do you think you HAVE all of the differing POVs? Because of all the DIFFERING men/women who deign to provide answers to things they have absolutely NO clue about! But there is One who says, "Come to ME!" Who says "KEEP asking... it WILL be opened to you!"
This is... none one has taught YOU... as to how it IS "opened." Yet, it's right there in plain view... for ALL to see. They... and you... CAN'T see it, though... because you are still BLIND. You refuse to buy eyesalve ("No, nope, God... I don't need you or your Son to show or tell me ANYTHING. See, I'm SO smart, I can figure it all out by myself. And if I can't... I'll go ask that guy over there. What? Well, no, he can't figure it out, either... but, well, we'll just try to figure it together, him and me. What? YOU can show me? Hmmmmm... ummmm... no, no thank you. We're good.").
But... you're not good. At all. You are still blind. You... and that one YOU went to for "sight." Even though he has none to give you.
Hardly any of the WT made any sense on a gut level even when I was a child. Yet I wanted to be loved by my parents and other relatives. People with good faith generally do not preach.
Ummmm... then you're ruling out a WHOLE lotta folks in the Bible... which is the ONLY "source" YOU have for even knowing about faith. Noah... Abraham... Moses... the Prophets... John the Baptist... the Apostles... Paul... even Christ himself. Oh, but wait... you're not a "christian"... right? Somehow, I thought you said you were... or at least want others to think you are...
Academics specialize in a few areas. Asking hard questions is so important to protect against other cults.
Yep, and academics know God... and Christ... better than God and Christ know themselves. Yes, that makes sense.
Personally, I do not believe in any single answer.
Maybe that's what's standing in your way, then - that you prefer "every wind of teaching"... rather than just one simple truth.
Everyone has a different personality and life experiences. Trust yourself.
The first is true. The second can prove dangerous. Has for many. Indeed, I'm sure your own parents trusted themselves, that their belief that certain men WEREN'T lying to them was accurate. And look what that got YOU.
With the Internet, sources can be referenced. When one explains scripture, ask what their background is.
And if that "background" is holy spirit? Then what? I will tell you: they can either ask for some of that spirit themselves, so as to know... or not. Easy-peasy.
My church believes personal revelation is possible as does the Roman Catholic Church.
That what the HECK is your problem when others have such?
When I was 21, I stumbled upon this church gem. I was so wary after the Witnesses that I blurted out my anger and questions. The priest responded that he had the very same questions I had. He remarked that church was not a place of smug belief but a community of people askiing the same hard questions as a community.
Well, that's his take... and he's entitled. It's his church, after all. So, he's entitled to spout his "wisdom" there. Others have other takes... and spout there wisdom in THEIR churches. MY understanding, however, is that the church (of God/Christ) is not a place... but a group of people: the Body of Christ, which is the congregation of that Christ, the Firstborn (from the dead), His Bride, New Jerusalem... made up of LIVING stones... which people constitute the "temple" of God... in which He, by spirit, dwells... and so not some hand-made temple... or hall... or cathedral... or abbey... or building... and there are no priests (not yet), pastors, popes, bishops, friars, reverends, governing body, district overseers, circuit overseers, councils... or other leaders... except ONE: Christ, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit.
Someone invaded a thread marked "for active JWs only" looking for fresh recruits.
First, YOU are here... on that same thread. So, unless you are an "active witness"... YOU are a hypocrite. Second, you're a liar and a slanderer, unless perhaps you're speaking as to yourself "looking for fresh recruits." Third, apparently you can read hearts. In which case, we should all follow you. Which makes you the one looking for recruits. Which, fourth... makes YOU a hypocrite.
I find it sad that someone would so intrude.
Blind hypocrite. YOUR intrude on threads that are specifically directed to specific posters... all the time. YOU can't stay off/away from threads that have absolutely NOTHING to do with you... even when they specifically ASK you to.
My commercial is over.
Oh, please. For now. You will be back up on you "Omigawd, I went to such and so Ivy League school and studied under such and so professor and attend such and so church in such and so big town... and so I am SO offended and seeing red!" soapbox in less than half a day, if not sooner.
Trust yourself. Empower yourself.
YES, dear ones! As to ALL you hear... from ALL whom you hear it FROM! And if you're not sure... ASK! But don't ask MAN... ASK the One who says to you "Come to ME! ASK... and it WILL be opened to you!"
We are good. This repartee make seem harsh but it is much more relaxed than the uniformity of the WTS.
Not according to you that last time you were "upset and offended and seeing red."
And yes, sometimes I miss the uniformity.
Ahh, THAT's explains all the flip-flopping. Well, that and perhaps those moments where you lack lucidity...
It passes quickly, though.
Not quick enough, though, girl, not quick enough. There is help out there, though: a Light. If you want it.
A slave of Christ,