I appreciate all of the comments (peace to you all!), including those stating perspectives as to the husband/wife relationship and even men/women in human culture in general. I understand the basis for those (even if I don't agree with them; not to say I don't, but that even if I didn't). What I am more interested in, though, is the perspective from the WTBTS POV... that women, in general, are in subjection/to be submissive to men, in general (and even, as someone pointed out above - my apologies, I forget who - to their minor male children, once such child is baptized).
It is understandable that society in GENERAL may have fomented such a belief for many reasons, and many of them valid. Also, I can see where the admonishment of women as to their own husbands (Eve and then Peter's words) might play a role... as well as within human culture in general (placing women in a secondary role) might make sense, given the customs and traditions of society, whether religious or not. I cannot, however, see the basis within the WTBTS... in general... other than [their own] custom/tradition. Given that that organization often takes issue with custom and tradition, though, I find it... curious... that this is one they uphold, and particularly on the basis of "scripture." WHAT "scripture", though, given what was actually stated to Eve (that her craving would be for HER husband and he - HER husband - would dominate her), and Peter stated to the congregation (women are to be in subjection to their OWN husbands).
I can even see where some might believe that they are to obey/submit to those "taking the lead" among them (Hebrews 13:17) although, I think that might be a bit of a stretch, particularly in light of the meaning of the word used for "obey" (Greek peitho) and what Christ is recorded to have said at Matthew 23:2, 3... but that was not my point, either (I mean, is a woman's baptized 12-... 14-... heck, 38-year-old son "taking the lead"... just because he's baptized??).
My point is, then, is on what basis is a woman to be in subjection to ANY other men (OR other women)... other than their own husbands... and, of course, Christ (even above their own husbands)... and for any man other than her husband (and Christ) even expecting such from her?
I am trying to get those who might still believe there IS some "biblical" justification for this... to see that, in truth, no such thing exists for christians, either as to scripture OR custom/tradition.
I appreciate, then, dear S+G's response (peace to you, dear one!) because it indicates that she put her husband's wishes above that of some other man, which man apparently thought he had a "higher" position in her life/world. WHY? Why did he think HIS "authority" took precedence over her own husband's authority? (And I don't mean authority in a negative sense, but only in the manner this man apparently did - he apparently thought that she was supposed to do what HE wanted her to do because... of WHAT?). There are a plethora of verses admonishing wives to be in subjection to their own husbands (Ephesian 5:22; Colossians 3:18; 1 Peter 3:1, etc.). And when speaking of women being "submissive" when "learning" as well (because this is also with reference to learning from their own husbands... because the husbands were the ones who attended the public meetings and brought information back, for the safety of the congregation).
If, then, you are a christian man or woman who believe that this is the proper conduct for a christian... for a woman to submit to the will of a man who is not her own husband (and for me doing as to a husband is a topic that deserves it's own thread)... why... other than WTBTS custom/tradition which you may have been taught all your life and/or simply accepted as truth... DO you believe this?
Again, I do not knock the responses received thus far; indeed, I again thank you all for them and if you want to continue along those lines, please, by all means do. But it was not my intent to get into submissiveness within the husband/wife relationship and the bases for that, or even in the overall man/woman dynamics of society. I am specifically interested in the WTBTS-indoctrination POV: that women, in general, are in subjection to men, in general... which "men" include baptized sons.
Again, peace to you all!
A slave of Christ,