"I left bethel as a serious doubter"
Your description is why I used the term (at some stage of development).
You saw what you needed to see to later connect the dots. At a gut level, you saw things that were WRONG, there. I surely did.
If assholes could fly, Brooklyn Bethel would be an international airport. (Not trying to say everyone was like this, but the ratio was pretty high.)
Sorry for going off-topic.