My daughter told me she actually dated a cop while she was a "Pioneer" and I was an elder.
Name Things You Did As A Witness That You Weren't Supposed To Do
Drinking, watching porn, masturbating, cussing, obscene jesting, watching rated R movies, listening to "unapproved" music, have non-witless friends, went to the prom, was a high school band nerd and went to every pep-band function even if it wasn't required, wear whatever clothing I want whenever I want, talk to DF ones, be nice to DA and DF ones, social networking, friending anyone I damn well please, choose school/work/recreation over meat-ings, lying on service slips and pre-arranging a car group of friends that won’t rat you out, going to the SM and then bailing to go do something fun when everyone thought you were out in service (this idea can also work if you say you have a study to go on, alone).
There's much more but this is all I can think of right now.
I know of some older teens that "are no longer Jehovah's Witnesses" and when they were very young, I used to say to my wife, "They'll never stay in The Truth". They're alll out now!
Going to my first ever birthday party today and I just put some "special" brownies in the oven. Also got really drunk last night and saw (and handled) some very nice boobs. I'm inactive, not df'd.
for the most part all of these "bad" things just are NOT bad just being human.
I think the Watchtower is apt to shoot itself in the foot with its doctrines of men.
I remember a magazine article that stated how even Pioneers where kidding themselves by thinking their good works could compensate for such terrible things as masturbating and secretly accepting blood transfusions.
So, right away they have labelled masturbating as being on the same badness level as having blood transfusions.
So, I start thinking, what if I had a child, and it needed a blood transfusion but I let it die in order to please God, yet here I was, couldnt even say no to a wank, yet I would be willing to let my child die, hypocrite I labelled myself, so that realisation was probably what set me on the path to leaving.
Well done Watchtower, you transverse land and sea to make one member, then proceed to make him even more of a sinner than he allready was.
hmm lets see. underage drinking, heavy petting while I was a pioneer. While I was at bethel- underage drinking that turned into heavy (legal) drinking, heavy petting, mutual masturbation, oral sex (never got up the nerve to penetrate but came close repeatedly), violent video games, R rated movies.
I watched R rated movies. The little nudity didn't bother me.
The profanity used: well, I hear that every day around me. I used profanity sometimes and didn't feel too guilty. After all, even in the bible Jehovah criticized dungy idols (shitty idols). He was just telling it like it was and so did I. I just had to watch myself when around over-righteous, sensitive JWs who didn't just dislike profanity, they couldn't deal with real life in general and I reminded them of this fact.
Some here admit to a little MB (me too) but I would never go to the elders about it.
I listened to any kind of music I wanted. I even went out and re-purchased some things I stupidly threw away because they weren't "approved".
I also (in later years of being a JW) made sure I accepted invitations at Thanksgiving and Christmas time. I started to really appreciate relatives and friends outside this vacuum of a religion that tried to stifle the very life in a person! So glad I'm out of there.
Your post is very touching. Congratulations for celebrating your beloved childrens' birthdays! How could you not? I treasured my Mom's birthday card to me and I am sorry she is not around anymore to send one.
This unnatural hateful religion truly deserves to go the way of the do-do bird and the dinosaurs.
well saw R rated movies like Rocky Horror Picture Show (loved it!!!),dated some worldly guys on the sly,,,and very happily married to one also listened to rock music
daily masturbation--as a teenager. then i met a devout jw girl--and taught her how to do it for me. she practiced a lot--and eventually masturd the art of it.