I guess I'm in a particularly morose mood today

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  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I've noticed when around people if I say something negative many people will try to say something positive,

    and if I say something positive someone will say something negative.

    Overall people try to say something positive.

    People will try to say something positive about God and life, most will not analyze it to the extent many here do, including

    myself.

    They have pills for over analyzing things, paxil, prozac etc.

    At the jail I work at, there is only 1 dub and its not me, and before each shift they hold

    hands and pray to God, thanking him and asking him for protection.

    I never hear anyone analyzing the down side of God. If I ever say something negative about

    God, someone always says something positive.

    For a lot of people beliving in God is like a catalyst to give one strength and energy to make

    it thruough life.

    You have to try to keep it on the good foot.

  • tootired2care
    tootired2care

    wha happened - I'd love to buy you a beer or four and talk about it. I think that would make both us feel better

    Cheers!

  • Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

    I've always thought if God is a father figure, he's a really screwed up one.

    He would be the backwoods daddy who's wife had r-u-n-n-o-f-t and left the kids; so he does what any loving father would, rapes his daughters and beats all his children within an inch of their life.

    Isn't he great?!

    If jayhovver were a human father, child services would have taken his kids away and thrown him in jail a long time ago.

  • anezthy
    anezthy

    I've often wondered if God is a father figure to all creation.. then... why did dinosaurs have such sharp teeth and claws.... and why Sharks are carnivorus and why some snakes have such lethal poison... and why have there been at least five life ending episodes on Planet Earth... the last of which ended the dinosaurs with sharp teeth and claws reign over the planet. Could religion be a fairy tale? I don't know the answer to that.

  • caliber
    caliber

    Natural Disaster
    A Tornado sweeps through a town -- a hurricane devastates a community -- wildfire roars through a subdivision -- or what of the tremendous toll accidents take on people every year? Couldn’t God for instance, suspend the law of gravity when a plane begins to fall to the ground?
    That would seem like a great idea, but if gravity were suddenly suspended, we’d all fly off into space. If natural law were suspended, there would be chaos and all of life would be in jeopardy

    Illness and Disease
    Why did God create life in such a way that some cells can go wild and destroy? Could He not have made human life so that we would never suffer the pain of disease?
    This may sound like a great idea at first glance -- especially when it involves the young and the innocent. Yet when life became a reality, all life forms became possible -- even diseased cells. Many diseases are a thing of the past, thanks to the skill and intellect God gave to us. It seems that we are called to work with God in the midst of human trial and difficulty. Although it can be painful, it is sometimes the tension, the struggle and the pain of life that calls out the best in us at times.
    As bad as illness and disease are, they are a part of what humanity and mortality are all about

    God did not intend for us to live forever in this dimension...

    Not my thoughts but worth consideration

    http://www.lectionarysermons.com/suffering.html

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Someone's got to lay the blame for humankind's problems squarely where it goes: right smack dab on the hands of the human beings causing them. Children suffered because adults were desperate and foolish enough to trust the twisted promises of Hitler. Afterall, wasn't it enough of the German people who voted in Hitler because he promised to:

    http://www.schoolhistory.co.uk/lessons/riseofhitler/whysupport.htm

    Why did people support Hitler?
    Hitler's promises
    People supported Hitler because he promised them what they wanted and needed to hear.

    The Weimar Republic appeared to have no idea how to solve the problems of the Depression. The Nazis on the other hand promised to solve the problems. Hitler promised most groups in Germany what they wanted. Hitler used the Jews and other sections of society as scapegoats, blaming all the problems on them. To Germans at the time Hitler made sense, he united everyone by providing explanations for Germany's problems.

    People in Germany were tired of their poor quality of life. Hitler promised to make Germany proud again - it was exactly what people wanted to hear. Hitler pledged something for every part of Germany society:

    Group Promise
    FarmersHigher prices for their produce - making up for all their losses during the Depression.
    Unemployed workersJobs building public works such as roads and stadiums.
    Middle ClassTo restore the profits of small business and the value of savings. To end the Communist threat.

    To all Germans he promised to restore German honour by tearing up the hated Treaty of Versailles and by making Germany great again.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Rwanda. Why did the rest of the world stand by and allow the slaughter of 800,000 people? Do you realize that Germany and Belgium played a role in the history that led up to the genocide?

    Rwanda Genocide

    A Short History of the Rwanda Genocide

    By Jennifer Rosenberg, About.com Guide

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    Picture of skulls and bones filling a room at the Murambi Technical School in Rwanda.

    Skulls and bones fill a room at what was the Murambi Technical School. (2001)

    (Photo taken by U.S. Rep. Frank Wolf of Virginia)

    Beginning on April 6, 1994, Hutus began slaughtering the Tutsis in the African country of Rwanda. As the brutal killings continued, the world stood idly by and just watched the slaughter.Lasting 100 days, the Rwanda genocide left approximately 800,000 Tutsis and Hutu sympathizers dead.

    Who Are the Hutu and Tutsi?

    The Hutu and Tutsi are two peoples who share a common past. When Rwanda was first settled, the people who lived there raised cattle. Soon, the people who owned the most cattle were called "Tutsi" and everyone else was called "Hutu." At this time, a person could easily change categories through marriage or cattle acquisition.

    It wasn't until Europeans came to colonize the area that the terms "Tutsi" and "Hutu" took on a racial role. The Germans were the first to colonize Rwanda in 1894. They looked at the Rwandan people and thought the Tutsi had more European characteristics, such as lighter skin and a taller build. Thus they put Tutsis in roles of responsibility.

    When the Germans lost their colonies following World War I, the Belgians took control over Rwanda. In 1933, the Belgians solidified the categories of "Tutsi" and "Hutu" by mandating that every person was to have an identity card that labeled them either Tutsi, Hutu, or Twa. (Twa are a very small group of hunter-gatherers who also live in Rwanda.)

    Although the Tutsi constituted only about ten percent of Rwanda's population and the Hutu nearly 90 percent, the Belgians gave the Tutsi all the leadership positions. This upset the Hutu.

    When Rwanda struggled for independence from Belgium, the Belgians switched the status of the two groups. Facing a revolution instigated by the Hutu, the Belgians let the Hutus, who constituted the majority of Rwanda's population, be in charge of the new government. This upset the Tutsi.

    The animosity between the two groups continued for decades.

    The Event That Sparked the Genocide

    At 8:30 p.m. on April 6, 1994, President Juvénal Habyarimana of Rwanda was returning from a summit in Tanzania when a surface-to-air missile shot his plane out of the sky over Rwanda's capital city of Kigali. All on board were killed in the crash.

    Since 1973, President Habyarimana, a Hutu, had run a totalitarian regime in Rwanda, which had excluded all Tutsis from participating. That changed on August 3, 1993 when Habyarimana signed the Arusha Accords, which weakened the Hutu hold on Rwanda and allowed Tutsis to participate in the government. This greatly upset Hutu extremists.

    Although it has never been determined who was truly responsible for the assassination, Hutu extremists profited the most from Habyarimana's death. Within 24 hours after the crash, Hutu extremists had taken over the government, blamed the Tutsis for the assassination, and begun the slaughter.

    100 Days of Slaughter

    The killings began in Rwanda's capital city of Kigali. The Interahamwe ("those who strike as one"), an anti-Tutsi youth organization established by Hutu extremists, set up road blocks. They checked identification cards and killed all who were Tutsi. Most of the killing was done with machetes, clubs, or knives. Over the next few days and weeks, road blocks were set up around Rwanda.

    On April 7, Hutu extremists began purging the government of their political opponents, which meant both Tutsis and Hutu moderates were killed. This included the prime minister. When ten Belgian U.N. peacekeepers tried to protect the prime minister, they too were killed. This caused Belgium to start withdrawing its troops from Rwanda.

    Over the next several days and weeks, the violence spread. Since the government had the names and addresses of nearly all Tutsis living in Rwanda (remember, each Rwandan had an identity card that labeled them Tutsi, Hutu, or Twa) the killers could go door to door, slaughtering the Tutsis.

    Men, women, and children were murdered. Since bullets were expensive, most Tutsis were killed by hand weapons, often machetes or clubs. Many were often tortured before being killed. Some of the victims were given the option of paying for a bullet so that they'd have a quicker death.

    Also during the violence, thousands of Tutsi women were raped. Some were raped and then killed, others were kept as sex slaves for weeks. Some Tutsi women and girls were also tortured before being killed, such as having their breasts cut off or had sharp objects shoved up their vagina.

    Slaughter Inside Churches, Hospitals, and Schools

    Thousands of Tutsis tried to escape the slaughter by hiding in churches, hospitals, schools, and government offices. These places, which historically have been places of refuge, were turned into places of mass murder during the Rwanda Genocide.

    One of the worst massacres of the Rwanda genocide took place on April 15-16, 1994 at the Nyarubuye Roman Catholic Church, located about 60 miles east of Kigali. Here, the mayor of the town, a Hutu, encouraged Tutsis to seek sanctuary inside the church by assuring them they would be safe there. Then the mayor betrayed them to the Hutu extremists.

    The killing began with grenades and guns, but soon changed to machetes and clubs. Killing by hand was tiresome, so the killers took shifts. It took two days to kill the thousands of Tutsi who were inside.

    Similar massacres took place around Rwanda, with many of the worst ones occurring between April 11 and the beginning of May.

    Corpses

    To further degrade the Tutsi, Hutu extremists would not allow the Tutsi dead to be buried. Their bodies were left where they were slaughtered, exposed to the elements, eaten by rats and dogs.

    Many Tutsi bodies were thrown into rivers, lakes, and streams in order to send the Tutsis "back to Ethiopia" - a reference to the myth that the Tutsi were foreigners and originally came from Ethiopia.

    Media Played a Huge Role in the Genocide

    For years, the Kangura newspaper, controlled by Hutu extremists, had been spouting hate. As early as December 1990, the paper published "The Ten Commandments for the Hutu." The commandments declared that any Hutu who married a Tutsi was a traitor. Also, any Hutu who did business with a Tutsi was a traitor. The commandments also insisted that all strategic positions and the entire military must be Hutu. In order to isolate the Tutsis even further, the commandments also told the Hutu to stand by other Hutu and to stop pitying the Tutsi. *

    When RTLM (Radio Télévison des Milles Collines) began broadcasting on July 8, 1993, it also spread hate. However, this time it was packaged to appeal to the masses by offering popular music and broadcasts conducted in a very informal, conversational tones.

    Once the killings started, RTLM went beyond just espousing hate; they took an active role in the slaughter. The RTLM called for the Tutsi to "cut down the tall trees," a code phrase which meant for the Hutu to start killing the Tutsi. During broadcasts, RTLM often used the term inyenzi ("cockroach") when referring to Tutsis and then told Hutu to "crush the cockroaches."

    Many RTLM broadcasts announced names of specific individuals who should be killed; RTLM even included information about where to find them, such as home and work addresses or known hangouts. Once these individuals had been killed, RTLM then announced their murders over the radio.

    The RTLM was used to incite the average Hutu to kill. However, if a Hutu refused to participate in the slaughter, then members of the Interahamwe would give them a choice -- either kill or be killed.

    The World Stood By and Just Watched

    Following World War II and the Holocaust, the United Nations adopted a resolution on December 9, 1948, which stated that "The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish."

    Clearly, the massacres in Rwanda constituted genocide, so why didn't the world step in to stop it?

    There has been a lot of research on this exact question. Some people have said that since Hutu moderates were killed in the early stages then some countries believed the conflict to be more of a civil war rather than a genocide. Other research has shown that the world powers realized it was a genocide but that they didn't want to pay for the needed supplies and personnel to stop it.

    No matter what the reason, the world should have stepped in. They should have stopped the slaughter.

    The Rwanda Genocide Ends

    The Rwanda Genocide ended only when the RPF took over the country. The RPF (Rwandan Patriotic Front) were a trained military group consisting of Tutsis who had been exiled in earlier years, many of whom lived in Uganda.

    The RPF were able to enter Rwanda and slowly take over the country. In mid July 1994, when the RPF had full control, did the genocide stop.

    * "The Ten Commandments of the Hutu" is quoted in Josias Semujanga, Origins of the Rwandan Genocide (Amherst, New York: Humanity Books, 2003) 196-197.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    It's bewildering, but people don't always step in to help when they have the power either. When will humankind ever learn? There is much beauty in life here on earth. There is a lot of ugliness. People, human beings are often at the root of the suffering. Whether you believe in a higher power or whether you don't, human beings are responsible for man's inhumanity to man.

  • glenster
    glenster

    God and the good and bad of life has been deliberated on since Job, one of the
    oldest books of the Bible. Since it's a faith concern for a possible God,
    not all-beneficent, presiding over the good and bad of life, you may knock Him
    for the bad or be grateful for your chance at life and what good you find in it
    (like Job). The problems in trying to go beyond a choice of faith or not and
    prove anything about it are that

    - if you try to prove He's there because He acts on all help requests sent in
    prayers, we'd all live in heavenly circumstances forever and we don't. You may
    garner accusations of going beyond faith understood as such and into naivete
    about magical thinking.

    - if you try to prove He must not be there by the bad, all you can prove is He
    isn't an all-beneficent God, which most believers have already figured out. If
    you make the case against Him about it too strong, you must also make the case
    that life itself is too bad to find anything worthwhile about, which is so
    pessimistic I won't recommend it.

    Until I get a new Ivy Bridge PC to replace my old single core CPU/AGP GPU/CRT
    monitor PC, I'm going to try the Steam version of The Longest Journey--I've
    heard it's pretty good.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p748Wk7wl7w
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Longest_Journey

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Do you remember the days

    We built these paper mountains

    And sat and watched them burn

    Religion is a mental firestorm. It throws everything out of place.

    Coming here helps put out the fire . . . but it doesn't put things back in place again.

    Not how we want it anyway.

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