A reality test for Jehovah's Witnesses that really seems to work

by Terry 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Ding

  If it works, great! But the estimate that a million kids are kidnapped in the US each year is so bizarre that I wonder if any amount of information will really bring that brother in touch with reality.

  Unfortunately, I think if you got the 10 top seismologists in the world all verifying that the number and intensity of earthquakes has decreased significantly in the last 100 years, most JWs would still believe that they are getting worse and worse because the WT says they are.

  Likewise regarding other such facts...
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  TheUbermensch

  A bit off-topic but I absolutely love things concerning earthquakes like "The number of earthquakes since 1914 has significantly increased". I always wondered why they never thought something along the lines of "Duh, technology has increased in the past 90 years, making seismometers more accurate and making them able to detect the smaller earthquakes as well". Not only that but more people died or were affected by earthquakes in the 1700s then the last two centuries altogether.

  It's sort of like saying "Since 1914, more human beings own and use computers" ... lol.
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  TheUbermensch

  "Everything You Know Is Wrong"

  Love that book.
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  N.drew

  Jesus did not say the "sign" they asked for is what follows in Matthew 24. In other words the description of the world at Matthew 24:4-14 does not necessarily answer the question "what is the sign?".

  Matthew 12:39 says no sign will he give them. http://concordances.org/greek/1325.htm which I think means he will not tell what a sign might be.

  Then why would the question be included if he wasn't going to answer it? Maybe because it is showing that even his intimate acquaintances thought they needed proof. So don't feel stumbled if you want proof. No proof will come, but don't feel bad that you want it.
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  Terry

  Here is how to ADJUST for population growth.

  1960=179,323,175 people

  2010=308,745,538 people

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  Between 1960 and 2010 the population grew by 17% (Divide the greater population by the lesser to obtain the percentage of increase)

  Now do the same for the crime rates.

  In 1960 the murder rate was 9,110 compared to 2010's rate @ 14,748 which is an increase of 16%

  You have to compare the population growth rates to see the DROP of 1% 17% minus 16% equals=1% drop

  179,323,175179,323,175 ,323,175

  Take this chart and watch the population rise on the far left as you read the rise in various crimes on the right.

  Adjust the rates by population ratio to get a TRUE PICTURE of what is actually happening in our society.

  Take RAPE in 2010 and compare it to 1968 and it is about the same even though the population has grown +15 1/2%

  United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2010

  						Forcible		Aggravated		Larceny-	Vehicle
  Year	Population	Total	Violent	Property	Murder	Rape	Robbery	assault	Burglary	Theft	Theft
  1960	179,323,175	3,384,200	288,460	3,095,700	9,110	17,190	107,840	154,320	912,100	1,855,400	328,200
  1961	182,992,000	3,488,000	289,390	3,198,600	8,740	17,220	106,670	156,760	949,600	1,913,000	336,000
  1962	185,771,000	3,752,200	301,510	3,450,700	8,530	17,550	110,860	164,570	994,300	2,089,600	366,800
  1963	188,483,000	4,109,500	316,970	3,792,500	8,640	17,650	116,470	174,210	1,086,400	2,297,800	408,300
  1964	191,141,000	4,564,600	364,220	4,200,400	9,360	21,420	130,390	203,050	1,213,200	2,514,400	472,800
  1965	193,526,000	4,739,400	387,390	4,352,000	9,960	23,410	138,690	215,330	1,282,500	2,572,600	496,900
  1966	195,576,000	5,223,500	430,180	4,793,300	11,040	25,820	157,990	235,330	1,410,100	2,822,000	561,200
  1967	197,457,000	5,903,400	499,930	5,403,500	12,240	27,620	202,910	257,160	1,632,100	3,111,600	659,800
  1968	199,399,000	6,720,200	595,010	6,125,200	13,800	31,670	262,840	286,700	1,858,900	3,482,700	783,600
  1969	201,385,000	7,410,900	661,870	6,749,000	14,760	37,170	298,850	311,090	1,981,900	3,888,600	878,500
  1970	203,235,298	8,098,000	738,820	7,359,200	16,000	37,990	349,860	334,970	2,205,000	4,225,800	928,400
  1971	206,212,000	8,588,200	816,500	7,771,700	17,780	42,260	387,700	368,760	2,399,300	4,424,200	948,200
  1972	208,230,000	8,248,800	834,900	7,413,900	18,670	46,850	376,290	393,090	2,375,500	4,151,200	887,200
  1973	209,851,000	8,718,100	875,910	7,842,200	19,640	51,400	384,220	420,650	2,565,500	4,347,900	928,800
  1974	211,392,000	10,253,400	974,720	9,278,700	20,710	55,400	442,400	456,210	3,039,200	5,262,500	977,100
  1975	213,124,000	11,292,400	1,039,710	10,252,700	20,510	56,090	470,500	492,620	3,265,300	5,977,700	1,009,600
  1976	214,659,000	11,349,700	1,004,210	10,345,500	18,780	57,080	427,810	500,530	3,108,700	6,270,800	966,000
  1977	216,332,000	10,984,500	1,029,580	9,955,000	19,120	63,500	412,610	534,350	3,071,500	5,905,700	977,700
  1978	218,059,000	11,209,000	1,085,550	10,123,400	19,560	67,610	426,930	571,460	3,128,300	5,991,000	1,004,100
  1979	220,099,000	12,249,500	1,208,030	11,041,500	21,460	76,390	480,700	629,480	3,327,700	6,601,000	1,112,800
  1980	225,349,264	13,408,300	1,344,520	12,063,700	23,040	82,990	565,840	672,650	3,795,200	7,136,900	1,131,700
  1981	229,146,000	13,423,800	1,361,820	12,061,900	22,520	82,500	592,910	663,900	3,779,700	7,194,400	1,087,800
  1982	231,534,000	12,974,400	1,322,390	11,652,000	21,010	78,770	553,130	669,480	3,447,100	7,142,500	1,062,400
  1983	233,981,000	12,108,600	1,258,090	10,850,500	19,310	78,920	506,570	653,290	3,129,900	6,712,800	1,007,900
  1984	236,158,000	11,881,800	1,273,280	10,608,500	18,690	84,230	485,010	685,350	2,984,400	6,591,900	1,032,200
  1985	238,740,000	12,431,400	1,328,800	11,102,600	18,980	88,670	497,870	723,250	3,073,300	6,926,400	1,102,900
  1986	240,132,887	13,211,869	1,489,169	11,722,700	20,613	91,459	542,775	834,322	3,241,410	7,257,153	1,224,137
  1987	242,282,918	13,508,700	1,483,999	12,024,700	20,096	91,110	517,704	855,088	3,236,184	7,499,900	1,288,674
  1988	245,807,000	13,923,100	1,566,220	12,356,900	20,680	92,490	542,970	910,090	3,218,100	7,705,900	1,432,900
  1989	248,239,000	14,251,400	1,646,040	12,605,400	21,500	94,500	578,330	951,710	3,168,200	7,872,400	1,564,800
  1990	248,709,873	14,475,600	1,820,130	12,655,500	23,440	102,560	639,270	1,054,860	3,073,900	7,945,700	1,635,900
  1991	252,177,000	14,872,900	1,911,770	12,961,100	24,700	106,590	687,730	1,092,740	3,157,200	8,142,200	1,661,700
  1992	255,082,000	14,438,200	1,932,270	12,505,900	23,760	109,060	672,480	1,126,970	2,979,900	7,915,200	1,610,800
  1993	257,908,000	14,144,800	1,926,020	12,218,800	24,530	106,010	659,870	1,135,610	2,834,800	7,820,900	1,563,100
  1994	260,341,000	13,989,500	1,857,670	12,131,900	23,330	102,220	618,950	1,113,180	2,712,800	7,879,800	1,539,300
  1995	262,755,000	13,862,700	1,798,790	12,063,900	21,610	97,470	580,510	1,099,210	2,593,800	7,997,700	1,472,400
  1996	265,228,572	13,493,863	1,688,540	11,805,300	19,650	96,250	535,590	1,037,050	2,506,400	7,904,700	1,394,200
  1997	267,637,000	13,194,571	1,634,770	11,558,175	18,208	96,153	498,534	1,023,201	2,460,526	7,743,760	1,354,189
  1998	270,296,000	12,475,634	1,531,044	10,944,590	16,914	93,103	446,625	974,402	2,329,950	7,373,886	1,240,754
  1999	272,690,813	11,634,378	1,426,044	10,208,334	15,522	89,411	409,371	911,740	2,100,739	6,955,520	1,152,075
  2000	281,421,906	11,608,072	1,425,486	10,182,586	15,586	90,178	408,016	911,706	2,050,992	6,971,590	1,160,002
  2001	285,317,559	11,876,669	1,439,480	10,437,480	16,037	90,863	423,557	909,023	2,116,531	7,092,267	1,228,391
  2002	287,973,924	11,878,954	1,423,677	10,455,277	16,229	95,235	420,806	891,407	2,151,252	7,057,370	1,246,646
  2003	290,690,788	11,826,538	1,383,676	10,442,862	16,528	93,883	414,235	859,030	2,154,834	7,026,802	1,261,226
  2004	293,656,842	11,679,474	1,360,088	10,319,386	16,148	95,089	401,470	847,381	2,144,446	6,937,089	1,237,851
  2005	296,507,061	11,565,499	1,390,745	10,174,754	16,740	94,347	417,438	862,220	2,155,448	6,783,447	1,235,859
  2006	299,398,484	11,401,511	1,418,043	9,983,568	17,030	92,757	447,403	860,853	2,183,746	6,607,013	1,192,809
  2007	301,621,157	11,251,828	1,408,337	9,843,481	16,929	90,427	445,125	855,856	2,176,140	6,568,572	1,095,769
  2008	304,374,846	11,160,543	1,392,628	9,767,915	16,442	90,479	443,574	842,134	2,228,474	6,588,046	958,629
  2009	307,006,550	10,762,956	1,325,896	9,337,060	15,399	89,241	408,742	812,514	2,203,313	6,338,095	795,652
  2010	308,745,538	10,329,135	1,246,248	9,082,887	14,748	84,767	367,832	778,901	2,159,878	6,185,867	737,142
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  outsmartthesystem

  Another thing they like to do is show one sided "true" stats. For instance......"the murder rate in Chicago has doubled since 1965." Well.....considering the population has also doubled.....I guess that makes sense.

  Or "yearly deaths from the influenza were at

  2,000,000 in 2005. Up from only 1,000,000 in 1935." Well...seeing as though the world's population has TRIPLED since then.....influenza deaths per capita are actually down. But witnesses don't like to look at things that way.

  BTW these are not real stats....just examples of controlled thinking.
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  Terry

  Take RAPE in 2010 and compare it to 1968 and it is about the same even though the population has grown +15 1/2%

  If the rate had followed population growth it would have been 15 1/2 per cent higher!
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  Terry

  Another important statistic which is a STRONG indication of society BETTERING ITSELF:

  Among Americans, smoking rates shrunk by nearly half in three decades (from the mid-1960s to mid-1990s), falling to 23% of adults by 1997.

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  Lore

  What happened in 1991? Crime has been declining since then, even though the population still increases.
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  breakfast of champions

  When visiting w/friends in NYC, I always remind them how just 10 years ago there would be NO WAY we would feel comfortable walking around in a certain neighborhood like we do now. Blows away the JW worldview and they can't deny it.