If I say something, one solitary posters always corrects me and not politely.
My sincere apologies if you think my comments to you weren’t polite, dear BOTR (again, peace to you!). It could be, however, that you are reading “something”… perhaps a tone… into them that really isn’t there. (It could also be, perhaps, that you are actually “hearing” how YOU speak to/feel about others in MY words. I dunno.)
I think you exaggerate, though, when you say I (because you referring to me, yes?) “always” correct you. Actually, I rarely comment as to your comments. Even so, it’s an religion-related Internet board and so dissention is to be expected. I mean, that’s what most of the adults understand.
But I must say that it is interesting that you say I alone do so. I’d say that, if out of all the people here, I am the one solitary poster that corrects you… you should feel pretty good about that. I don’t think anyone else can boast such a record (that only ONE person on the entire board “corrects” them). Keep in mind, though, that I wouldn’t even bother… if what I was responding TO was accurate.
No scholars are cited.
Okay, let me think: cite a scholar… cite Christ, the Holy Spirit… cite a scholar… cite Christ, the Holy Spirit…cite a scholar… cite…
Hmmmm… Well, I gotta say, since none of the scholars I COULD cite were THERE… and none of THEM sent an angel to direct Philip… and none of THEM compelled Philip to hook up WITH the Ethiopian… and the Ethiopian wasn’t asking about any of THEM… yeah, I’m gonna go with Christ, the Holy Spirit. ‘Cause he’s NEVER lied to… or misled me. If that’s okay with you, I mean… because apparently you believe I need your academic “permission”…
Also, there is no basis as to why her facts are correct and mine are incorrect.
This isn’t a competition, BOTR. We’re not engaged in Moot Court and Mock Debate. I disagree with what you've shared as true... and you disagree with what I've shared as true . That you take offense at THAT is… interesting…
It would be interesting if we viewed certain matters differently based on our backgrounds, etc. Such a discourse would be fun.
Yet, you’ve chosen to take this tack… ridicule, sarcasm, even a touch or ire. Can’t see you trying to HAVE fun in that. Rather, I see someone who’s insecure about having someone disagree with what they believe.
If John Dominic Crossan is not a good source, please do Google scholar or EBSCO Host. Some neutral NT study organizations not affiliated with a hard line position must also exist on the Internet. I come here for interest and enjoyment. If a dissertion is needed, I am capable. There are other passions in my life.
I am not an academic, sorry, dear BOTR. I am just one of those “god-fearers” you mentioned. The only source for me is Christ. Who I can’t Google (but I can hear, by means of holy spirit). There are also a couple/few verses that might at least give you reason to pause and consider whether Crossan (whose theories someone’s going to debunk at some point or another… after which someone will debunk that one’s theories… and so on and so on…). But I get that those aren’t sufficient for you, truly. I wouldn’t necessarily go on those, alone, either, so I get it. But my apologies if I am too… ummmmm… under-edu-macated for you. I would wager, however, if I were a wagering woman… that my Source, Christ, is a WHOLE lot simpler to understand… than either you OR Crossan. And… there is absolutely NO conflict in HIS words. Just truth. “The facts, ma’am.”
Jerry Falwell or someone would heartily disagree with me. I state Pagels, Armstrong, N.T. Wright, Marcus Borg and others are the scholars I respect.
I can respect that. I don’t think, however, that YOU respect My “source.” That you even can. But that doesn’t give me cause to take offense when you disagree… or to be sarcastic or ridicule you. But you know how it is: out of the abundance of one’s heart. You strike me as have quite an abundance of… ummmm… insecurity about your… ummmm… “expertise”… because you seem to have a hard time dealing when someone challenges that. Even if what you say doesn’t make much sense, scholarly or otherwise.
After reading their books for many decades now, I retain some off the cuff knowledge.
For some reason I am reminded of “Lionel Logue’s” response to “King George VI of England”, when the latter tried to emphasize how learned… and recognized… his advisors were. Something along the lines of, “Well, that makes it official, doesn’t it?” For more specific detail, you should check out that film, if you haven’t already.
My intention is not to say I am right
Rah Rah but to have a respectful dialogue.
Really. I not only addressed you MOST respectfully (as I always do), with a greeting for peace (which I always offer)… but even by “name” (as I always do). You not only did not address me (you rarely do), but are talking ABOUT me as if I’m not here (which you usually do)… or as if others have no clue as to who you mean. “Respectful”? Really?
Look... you took offense… although absolutely none was intended… and got, well, snide and catty, actually. No worries, though – I realize that you don’t SEE that, so I choose to take no offense. Hey, we’re all human…
Statistically, it is impossible for me to be as wrong as a Guest believes I am.
Well, then, okay. Again, “it’s official.”
For some unknown reason, I would relish hearing her sources.
See what I mean? Exactly who are you addressing? Me? T he board? The FSM? Are you asking them to ask me FOR you? No worries: they don’t have to ask nor do you, as I will gladly tell you. My Source is the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH… who is the Son and Christ of the MOST Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob… whose name is JAH… of Armies (JaHVeH).
Trust me b/c I said so--I fled that at fourteen and am still running.
Please excuse THIS bit of sarcasm, but I NEVER asked/told/said to you… or ANYONE… to trust me… nor to do so “because I said so.” I didn’t even go there with my kids. Rather, I EXPLAINED “why”. I don’t take the easy way out, BOTR – I give it my all. However, just like me YOU can go to the SAME source that I do… Christ… and listen to HIM. Just like I do. And you don’t have to trust me that this is true: you are more than free to put it to the test. Surely, you have the faith (and COURAGE) to do so?
If A Guest wants to believe her content, I am cool with that.
Obviously, you’re not "cool" with it. At least, you weren’t. I’m glad you’ve allowed yourself to talk it out, though… and perhaps get there. If indeed you have. If so, thank you! But, I do have to ask: where is your “who are you to disagree with me and my sources” commentary to dear Doug Mason (peace to you!), who apparently believes the Eunuch to have been a Jew, as well? Perhaps you missed that…
Again, peace to you!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,