Camping tells all tonight!!

by moshe 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • moshe

    Yes, the dates are correct, proofs are correct and Judgment day came on May 21- but it was an invisible spiritual judgment- the end of the world is still coming on Oct 21. Harold Egbert Camping has just explained the truth to the world 5 minutes ago.

  • moshe

    He was just asked if he will give away all his worldly possesions on Oct20th,

    "uh- no the end of the world is just one day later- so what's the point, they could only use it for one day (paraphrased)

  • kazar

    Oh, another invisible judgment; is that like the JW's invisible judgment of 1914? LOL.

  • baltar447

    Well I know at least one skeptical person that I know the irony isn't lost on. Everyone else, idk.

  • moshe

    He was just asked if his eyes were just opened about May21, what is to say his eyes are yet to be opened about Oct21?

    -no direct answer given- yak, yak, yak

    Q-Do you feel responsible for the false trust people placed in you.

    A- I'm not an authority, Im a humble teacher, I just show you where to go in the Bible

    Q is their possibilty you can make another mistake about Oct 21?

    A- we have not made a mistake about May 21- just the nature of it- it was a spiritual judgment

    trying to paraphrase- questions are coming one after the other- people are angry

  • moshe

    Q- prior to May21 you were asked if May21 could be spiritual and you were very definite that it was literal, the earthquakes were real- why have you chnaged your mind

    A------we don't always hit the nail on the head the first time--- it's spiritual

    Q Uh---- so we as humans are not really capable of undertsanding the Bible?

    A- you are correct--- (off track again)- all about Saul, Paul, once blind can now see. We have to study, pray, yak, yak

    Q- what about the woman who tried to kill herself and her two children on Saturday, over your May21?

    A- it's up to God, I have no responsibilty for her actions- I'm just a teacher- I have no spiritual rule over anyone, except my wife


    Just asked if he would apologize-- commercial break

    I'm done- he makes me sick.

  • yourmomma

    im listening to this, and its one of the most digusting sickening things i have ever heard, he should be brought up on charges and procecuted. when our we as a society going to stop tolerating OUT RIGHT SCAMS in the name of religion? i hope this sparks outrage, but it probably wont.

    hell, open up an online poker website, and you go to jail, but bilk niave people out of millions in the name of god and you get away scott free.


  • yourmomma

    the whole thing was sickening, but this below was the worst (this is from the huffington post live blog (

    What About People Who Depleted Life Savings to Promote Camping's Message?

    Camping declines to offer them help.

    He says the country experienced a recession. "Lots of people lost their homes" and jobs. But he says "they survived."

    "People cope. People cope," says Camping.

    He says job, housing and investment loses during the recent economic decline are far worse than what "the average Family Radio listener" has experienced.

    On Saturday, Family Radio spokesman Tom Evans had vaguely indicated the station might give aid to donors who are now without jobs and money.

  • moshe

    Radio host says Rapture actually coming in October

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    OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - California preacher Harold Camping said Monday his prophecy that the world would end was off by five months because Judgment Day actually will come on Oct. 21.

    Harold Camping speaks during a taping of his show in Oakland, Calif., on Monday.

    By Marcio Jose Sanchez, AP

    Harold Camping speaks during a taping of his show in Oakland, Calif., on Monday.


    By Marcio Jose Sanchez, AP

    Harold Camping speaks during a taping of his show in Oakland, Calif., on Monday.

    Camping, who predicted that 200 million Christians would be taken to heaven Saturday before the Earth was destroyed, said he felt so terrible when his doomsday prediction did not come true that he left home and took refuge in a motel with his wife. His independent ministry, Family Radio International, spent millions - some of it from donations made by followers - on more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message.

    But Camping said that he's now realized the apocalypse will come five months after May 21, the original date he predicted. He had earlier said Oct. 21 was when the globe would be consumed by a fireball.

    Saturday was "an invisible judgment day" in which a spiritual judgment took place, he said. But the timing and the structure is the same as it has always been, he said.

    "We've always said May 21 was the day, but we didn't understand altogether the spiritual meaning," he said. "May 21 is the day that Christ came and put the world under judgment."

    It's not the first time the independent Christian radio host has been forced to explain when his prediction didn't come to pass. He also predicted the Apocalypse would come in 1994, but said it didn't happen then because of a mathematical error.

    Rather than give his normal daily broadcast on Monday, Camping made a special statement before the press at the Oakland headquarters of the media empire that has broadcast his message. His show, "Open Forum," has for months headlined his doomsday message via the group's radio stations, TV channels, satellite broadcasts and website.

    When the Rapture didn't arrive Saturday, crestfallen followers began turning their attention to more earthly concerns.

    Jeff Hopkins had figured the gas money he spent driving back and forth from Long Island to New York City would be worth it, as long as people could see the ominous sign atop his car warning that the End of the World was nigh.

    "I've been mocked and scoffed and cursed at and I've been through a lot with this lighted sign on top of my car," said Hopkins, 52, a former television producer who lives in Great River, NY. "I was doing what I've been instructed to do through the Bible, but now I've been stymied. It's like getting slapped in the face."

    Camping said Family Radio would never tell anyone what they should do with their possessions.

    "That is between them and God," he said.

    But he said he wouldn't give away all his possessions ahead of Oct 21.

    "I still have to live in a house, I still have to drive a car," he said. "What would be the value of that? If it is Judgment Day why would I give it away?"

    Apocalyptic thinking has always been part of American religious life and popular culture. Teachings about the end of the world vary dramatically - even within faith traditions - about how they will occur.

    Still, the overwhelming majority of Christians reject the idea that the exact date or time of Jesus' return can be predicted.

    Tim LaHaye, co-author of the best-selling "Left Behind" novels about the end times, recently called Camping's prediction "not only bizarre but 100 percent wrong!" He cited the Bible verse Matthew 24:36, "but about that day or hour no one knows" except God.

    "While it may be in the near future, many signs of our times certainly indicate so, but anyone who thinks they 'know' the day and the hour is flat out wrong," LaHaye wrote on his website,

    In 2009, the nonprofit Family Radio reported in IRS filings that it received $18.3 million in donations, and had assets of more than $104 million, including $34 million in stocks or other publicly traded securities.

  • flipper

    Camping is just a religious mind control cult con artist who is on the same level as Jehovah's Witnesses or any other apocalyptic cult. They have unscrupulous motives to con people to take their money and build their empire. It's immoral, disgusting, and criminal. And I agree with YOURMOMMA - religion gets away with far too much scamming of the public without having to answer for it. This bastard should be imprisoned, as should the leaders of the JW cult. Just my 2 cents

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