What proof is there that Jesus chose the Bible Students in 1919?

by VM44 50 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    mAlice/Spade will be along to supply the answer soon.

  • Honesty

    Hey apostates,

    Jesus personally chose them in 1919 because they were preaching the Good News and were celebrating Christmas and Easter and were worshiping Jesus.

    It is now 2011 and they are still speaking for God even when he screws with their feeble minds and sends out the wrong memo because they take God's

    wrong memo and obediently print what is in the memo and distribute the 4-11 in the pages of God's new bible, the Watchtower magazine.

    When God realises that he sent the wrong memo he takes immediate action by sending a new memo and covering up his first memo that was wrong by telling

    the Gibbering Buddy it is New Light.

  • St George of England
  • TotallyADD

    One evidence they give is since 1919 Satan has not been able to touch them. That Jehovah will keep them from being destoryed. Also they like to use the growth of the organization as evidence that they are right. You can also use that same argument with other religions. Totally ADD

  • Tuesday

    I actually did a video on this, there was an article in 1991 which explains three things that the Watchtower was that no other religion was in 1919.

  • St George of England
    St George of England

    Or even 1918 if you read some Watchtowers

    See Blacksheeps scan:-



    PS on the DVD released last year David Splane said Jehovah chose the Bible Students as early as 1916! I think there is a YouTube video on this also.

  • lovelylil

    Because they said so .

    No but really there is NO PROOF whatsoever! We just have to take Chuck Rusell's word for it. We know how honest he was........can someone say miracle wheat???

  • passwordprotected

    The WTBTS has normally pointed to the liberation from prison of Rutherford and the directors, followed by their "zealous preaching" as proof of their selection.

    However, this line of evidence relies upon Jesus having returned and found them awaiting his arrival in 1914, something that the Proclaimers book refutes; they were saying Jesus had returned in 1874 by the time 1914 rolled around.

    Therefore their evidence doesn't stand even cursory scrutiny:

    • what was Jesus looking for among Christendom?
      • a people awaiting his arrival and serving "spiritual food" of high quality
    • the Bible Students (under CT Russell and then Rutherford) were preaching in 1914 that Jesus had returned 40 years earlier (Russell had sold his business and poured his resources into publishing literature to that effect
      • in 1914 the Bible Students weren't alert and waiting for Christ's return; they'd announced it as 1874
    • the Bible Students would not have met with Jesus' alleged criteria for selection, regardless of how high a quality their "spiritual food" was
      • therefore Jesus did not choose them in 1919

    All of that being said, the years 1914 and 1919 are almost exclusively associated with the Watch Tower Society. As Jesus couldn't have chosen them in 1919, there is absolutely no basis for any Christian to believe that the Watch Tower Society (via the Bible Students and then Jehovah's Witnesses) speaks for God or was chosen by God.

    The Witnesses are unable to rebut this point by invoking Proverbs 18 and "the light getting brighter" as Christ wouldn't have been refining the Bible Students/Jehovah's Witnesses since 1919. He didn't choose them. Therefore not once has he revealed "new truths" to them.

    The scale and scope of the circular logic needed to believe and support the 1919 selection is mind boggling.

    It's always worth pointing out to a Witness what the "advertise advertise advertise" campaign by the Bible Students upon their "selection" in 1919 consisted of:

    “For six thousand years God has been preparing for this kingdom. For nineteen hundred years he has been gathering out the kingdom class from amongst men.

    Since 1874 the King of glory has been present; and during that time he has conducted a harvest and has gathered unto himself the temple class.

    Since 1914 the King of glory has taken his power and reigns. He has cleansed the lips of the temple class and sends them forth with the message. The importance of the message of the kingdom cannot be overstated.

    It is the message of all messages. It is the message of the hour. It is incumbent upon those who are the Lord’s to declare it.

    The kingdom of heaven is at hand; the King reigns; Satan’s empire is falling; millions now living will never die….
    The world must know that Jehovah is God and that Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. This is the day of all days.
    Behold, the King reigns! You are his publicity agents. Therefore advertise, advertise, advertise, the King and his kingdom!

    I've blogged about 1919 and the lack of evidence on my blog.
  • isaacaustin

    VM44, the WT says so!! What other proof do you need? LOL

  • isaacaustin

    Ok, I did ask my father this once. His reply? "Jesus said he would raise up a FDS in the last days." Of course, this answer is in direct conflict to the WT who claim that the FDS has existed since Jesus day.

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